Unspoken Dangers of LEEP Procedures

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LEEP Side Effects

Dyscariosis and the Threat of Cervical Cancer

I was 33. I was in love, although more realistically heartbroken and pining.  This wasn’t unusual for me, I was never very good at choosing a partner, I was fiery and volatile in my lifestyle, and had gone through a series of painful and passionate relationships in my late 20s and early thirties. My addiction to love was always to my detriment. When I fell, I fell hard, and always with the wrong ones. But yet somehow despite the pain, in this wild messy state, I thrived. It drove me forward. It was part of me. I was addicted to life and love.

I saw myself growing old, laughing. I loved to dance, to flirt, to draw and create characters in my mind and in my work. I used to cry, laugh and make jokes. I was employed in a creative job and was passionate and truly alive.

In August 2010, after a routine cervical smear I was informed, that I had a small cellular change in my cervix, known as mild dyscariosis that threatened cancer if left untreated, and that I would have to undergo a minor procedure to remove these cells.  The procedure is called a Loop Electrosurgical Excision Procedure, or LEEP. It is also known as LETZ in the US, and is similar to a Cone Biopsy.

No Nerve Endings in the Cervix?

I was slightly worried, but reassured by my doctor that there was nothing to even consider as a side effect with the LEEP procedure. There was no risk at all, she said, as (which you may also have been told), there are apparently ‘NO’ nerve endings in the cervix.

I was surprised and dubious at this statement, having not only experienced pretty much all my pleasure and emotional pain from precisely that region, but also been used to very intense cervical contractions, both though orgasm, and the dull aches of menstruation.

I went online, and even more surprising found nothing to explain this part of the body neurologically, at all.

Nervously I agreed to the procedure and endured it without complaint.

Post LEEP Nerve Damage

On returning home however, things soon began to feel very different. After a few days, possibly a week, I was suddenly struck with a dark, eerie hollow emptiness. I knew I had been cut into, and was therefore injured, and so put it down the possible fragility of healing. But it wasn’t long before I shared my first sexual contact, and then things then became very real.

Where once there had been a rush of blood and sensation, there was nothing. No electricity, warmth or change in my body.  I was even more shocked, however when the orgasm I was expecting, had virtually vanished into thin air. Like the muscle had literally been cut out of my body. I felt hollow inside.

As the horror set in silently, as I suddenly faced the realization that this wasn’t just a fragility, or a healing problem, something I could run away from and escape. This was very serious. A deep and disturbing deadness inside, that as I explored further seemed to become emptier and more upsetting.

I tried to fantasize, to escape. I asked myself, who I could bring to mind for comfort. Something that would previously always entertain and distract me from a discomforting moment of loneliness or boredom, and would easily generate a feeling of hope and love and a rush of desire. But nothing happened.

Damage to Those Nerves Affects Everything

A black hole had appeared in my mind, shrouding the imagery I craved, my past memories and lovers, had vanished and lost all meaning. I literally wasn’t able to visualize or feel. I went to bed, and the room suddenly felt more real, solitary and isolating than it had ever done before. Even loneliness, and the painful ache for another had completely gone.

It felt that in my womb, something had been cut. As though a strong elastic band that held me together in my middle, that resonated and warmed me, and joined my mind and body with the sparks and excitement of life, had been severed.

My creativity soon also turned to a dismissal grey around me, I could see it, but wasn’t able to respond. I couldn’t feel expressions, connections, vibrations or meanings.  As if life itself became fake and tacky, like I was watching a play or performance. I was looking at the actors but could see the ropes being pulled backstage, just waiting for the end of the show. My world had lost its meaning and its colour.

As I seemed no different on the outside, I managed to I hide this for a while at work, but my job was creative, and I knew it would not be long before I would have to leave. Previously I had always felt like I was waiting for my big moment, the next big thing, anticipation that one day my magical hidden talents would be discovered, that I had something amazing to give the world. But now all that was gone. I felt tired, old, and like my cells couldn’t grow or re-generate.

Post – LEEP Side Effects Ignored

I returned to my doctor straight away. But was told to wait. After six months I returned again and persuaded them I wanted a gynecology referral. This however also did not provide any explanation or acknowledgement of the changes in sexual or sensory function I had complained about.

This became the beginning of the nightmare cycle of denial, rejection, and disbelief, which made me realize there was something very wrong in the system that needed addressing.

I went back, time after time, in the hope that there might be some kind of seed of understanding or explanation or support, but I was left searching on my own for many years that pushed me into a deep despair.

I felt like it was neither accepted, talked about, nor considered a medical issue. There was no interest or understanding.

A Culture of Silence in Women’s Sexual Health

There is a culture of silence about women’s sexual health that has shocked me. There are many I have spoken to who have found it so hard to understand why any of this matters, or are too embarrassed, or think that this it is just about the act of having sex, but it isn’t.

The womb, and the vagina-brain connection is a sensory organ, a barometer for so many of our emotions and sensations. From fear, to passion, love, excitement, trust, feeling, hearing music, and of course drive, attraction and sex. If it is damaged, the effects span throughout your whole life and can affect your entire sense of perception.

My Symptoms Are Not Unique

I eventually discovered that the symptoms I was experiencing were not unique to me, and were not, as I had begun to accept, a form of madness that needed desperately to be concealed.

They were not only real, but well documented, and not uncommon in women who have undergone total hysterectomy. The removal of not only the womb but the cervix as well.

Although no doctor had at any stage revealed this to me.

I chilled further when I learned that practitioners now commonly avoid the cervix in order to preserve a woman’s health, sanity, and sexuality.

It seemed unbelievable that they could they be still cutting away at it, seemingly at random in other operations. Young women. Potentially being completely shut down. Without any warning of the statistics, or what is at stake.

How was it they were not making the obvious connection and trying to keep us safe and intact too?

Since this happened, the shame of having lost that sacred sense of feminine, seemed to lurk around every social interaction.

I could no longer get excited about the prospect of a social event, in my neutered state I was no longer a player in the game, or felt of value to anyone.

I felt unarmed, vulnerable and an outsider.

I could no longer command, or desire attention through that unspoken physical energy. An instinctive movement of my hips, or a raised head or glance through a crowd was a lost language. Direct eye contact confused me. I no longer could read or translate these bodies.

Having always known instinctively, and successfully, how to use my body to communicate and to express and perform, meant I now had become terrified of bumping into old friends or having to explain anything.

I felt like I had been hit round the head and had forgotten who I was. For a long time the shame of this affected my entire existence. Something that I have learned every day to try and fight with all the strength I have.

Recovery Post LEEP

At times I think I am getting better, tolerating my body in a new way, and thinking that I have created this whole thing in my mind. But then at other times I am floored again upon realizing it is real.

I am not sure of the facts about neurological re-growth or brain plasticity to heal. But I know this is a good start for a positive outlook. Or perhaps just after such a long time the hope that I will eventually just get used to living in a different mind and body. Learning new ways to live, feel, and accept what I have.

We Are Not Alone

It was such a relief to learn I was not alone out there. I finally found others, and medical practitioners who were also as passionate about this subject as me.

I found within some medical papers online, the names of neurologists specializing in the field of sexual health, and in my search I soon became a point of contact for their work.

This has become the beginning of the collaborative effort to bring this out of the shadows, and into a period of new research, progress and change.

The science behind this could take many years, however this collaboration is making steps that could protect many women from surgical damage in the future.

The threat of cervical cancer is something that must not ever be ignored. We all need to know the facts, but there are less invasive treatments. We need to be given a choice and made aware of the risks.

I have decided to write about my experience in the hope that, whatever the true neurological explanation, our experiences as women will eventually be taken seriously by the medical industry.

We need more women to support us, and we want to help bring this from online to the real world where these issues can be addressed.

More Information about LEEP Side Effects

For more information about problems with LEEP, Cone Biopsy, TVT/Transvaginal Mesh, Labiaplasty or a similar vaginal or pelvic surgery, I found the physicians and researchers at San Diego Sexual Medicine to be very helpful, in particular Dr. Irwin Goldstein.

Web and Reading Resources that Provided Solace and Support

Inspire Health and Wellness

Hormones Matter

HERS Foundation

Books

Vagina, by Naomi Wolf

The Science of Orgasm, by Barry R Komisaruk, Carlos Beyer-Flores, Beverley Whipple

The Brain that Changes Itself, by Norman Doidge

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33 Comments

  1. hey,after reading all this comments it has me worried especially with ur last comment i had my leep today but when i had got the called from the dr. i clearly asked her so i have cancer she said no we r just removing a piece of tissue im like fine i was more calm but today that i walked in shes like hi ur here for ur leep im like whats that she said for ur pre cancer u have i was in shocked after a min i told her the dr. never said that anyhow they did the surgery let me go home didnt tell me what medications i can take what i can do or dont what can happen after .my point is no information on nothing n now reading the experience of all this womens now i know what i got myself into i wish theyre was some type of help regarding this

    1. HI Cindy,
      Yes I wish there had been help too xx

      The things I would suggest in terms of aftercare.. do not try test your sexual function..AT ALL. I mean in any way even on your own. It is a muscle, and although I dont know for sure, I would suggest it could be bad to try anything that could engage the orgasm reflex for at least 6 weeks.

      Also don’t use tampons and bath carefully, showers are better. (they must have told you that though.)

      But most importantly don’t panic. We are here on this page after serious long term issues. The majority of women get away without nerve damage or other issues, so statistically, you are most likely to be fine.

      Please get back in touch if you have any worries and need to voice anything but for now I wish you all the best for a speedy recovery XXX

  2. Hi there! I would like to connect privately also. I had the LEEP procedure done in the summer of 2015. I have not at all been right since and have been trying to find out what is going on. I have lost my sex drive which was quite strong prior and has proved a problem not only to me, but is making things difficult as I am a newlywed. I have also noticed extreme fatigue, pain and discomfort during sex, and cramping. I’ve had my hormone levels tested and seem fine, according to the ranges of a 34 year old woman, but this seems so generic to me. I just have not felt like myself and feel like something is missing. My confidence is gone and even my ability to relax and enjoy myself have disappeared. I would like any information on how to reverse this damage, if at all possible.

    1. HI Jamie, I will find your email and message you now xx If there is anyone else reading this please find the fb support page;

      Healing from LEEP

      It is a closed group bringing women together for support in this situation.

    2. I am so happy almost that I have found these comments it feels like no one understand even when I take my time to explain how I feel its like every since the surgery Ive been alone n Im a single parent with 3 baby boys so its hard because I know they dont get it.

  3. I just wanted to say that I am so glad I found your post. I thought i was being crazy, I feel like I have a horrible list of long term side effects from the leep I had in 2015. I wish I had never gotten it done. Anyway, after reading this I feel assured that I am not imagining my symptoms. Thank you.

  4. I feel so sad. I had a leep at 30 and could not orgasm after. I am mid 50s now and never had another satisfying physical relationship. I always knew the leep destroyed my sexual response. I never married or had kids and i was always attractive to men but sex was ruined for me. I missed out on a whole lifetime of it and really feel sad about it because before the leep I loved sex and had a normal love life. I recently told my OBGYN about this and she said she never heard anything about it and it was what happens to older women ..but it happened to me immediately after the leep ..don’t get one! Everything in a woman’s body is connected and Medicine thinks they can just hack you up but it ruins everything nobody really understands

    1. Is there a way to contact you privately. I have this same problem and am devastated and not sure if there is a solution.

      1. HI Sardina, I have left you a private message to your registered email. Let me know if it hasn’t arrived and ill try again

  5. Thank you for sharing your story with us. I received today a letter from the NHS in the U.K. That I’m scheduled for LEEP on 12.05 – that’s right on my 34th birthday… there is no mention whatsoever about the side effects of such procedure. Only recently there was another scandal revealed when it comes to women’s health to do with the pelvic mesh operations and how it can disable women for life! Worth looking up- Victoria Derbyshire programme on BBC talking with group of women who were left disabled following such barbarian procedure. Again- non of them were informed about the potential side effect: permanent nerve damage, bowel and bloder damage and many more. I honestly believe that if not for the programme on pelvic mesh implants side effects, I’d never searched for side effects on the LEEP procedure. Instead, I would just blindly follow the consultant’s recommendations..hmm makes my blood boil now!! Of course he wouldn’t know what I’m taking about- he-another male ruling on women’s health! Enough is enough! They have so much power when using the C word! No- it’s not a cancer!!! We all have cancerous cells!! Ahh God!

    1. Hi,
      Yes I know about the mesh scandal.. Ive picked up on all of this over the years while Ive been trying to work out what the hell is going on with all of this. Its utterly disgusting. Im trying to highlight with this whole push for information, that the female anatomy needs studying in much much more detail before they have any right to force or frighten us into any surgery that is not effectively researched. Please ask for more information on alternatives,.. we all need to support the fight for this. Thankyou for contributing, its so important, and i wish you all the best with what you decide to do. X

  6. I had leep too and I could not agree more. To this day I have weird pulling stabbing pains in and around my upper uterus, like its under my rib cage. I feel there has been permanent damage and inflammation since the procedure. I used to love when my husband would make love to me deeply, now, I literally recoil if that area is hit too hard. It has changed our love life. I also have pain that literally stabs through to my spinal chord since the leep. I felt it almost right away when she hit the nerve even though I was numbed. My belly bloated tremendously and it felt like this pulling stabbing sensation at the top of my vagina deeply inside. The crazy doctors pressured me, scaring me by using the word ‘cancer’ and even recommended I take a double dose of Ativan prior to signing consent forms and the procedure. i had intense back spasms for weeks following the procedure. they cut way more than they told me they would. I know because I asked to see what they cut. WOW. Horrible! They know no one would consent to this type of horrific thing sober. It breaks my heart to read this and to know I willingly caved to the pressure of Doctors in Canada. I saw 3 of them and they all kept threatening with Cancer, even though I was only CIN2. It is genital mutilation. I am sorry to anyone who has had to go through this. THE TRUTH about the BODY and disease that our health care system does not teach is that YOU CAN HEAL YOUR BODY WITH REAL, RAW, ORGANIC FOOD, (TONNES OF IT) and clean alkaline water (water is life! don’t drink tap water, it is laced with chemicals, fluoride chlorine and pharmaceuticals) find CLEAN water (untouched spring water) or alkaline ph9 and you can REVERSE the abnormal cells on the cervix, giving the body enough strength/immunity to fight off an HPV infection.

    1. Thankyou for sharing this Tlo. Your symptoms sound awful. They are different to mine but this really sounds important to get documented. Would you please speak to the specialist I am working with? He is making case studies to account for the damages. We need to stop this happening. It is confidential and he is the best in the field. If you are interested please let me know.

      Everyday since this happened in 2010 I have grieved what was cut from me, the loss of that specific pleasure and no longer being able to share it is indescribably to me. One of the worst things is the bemused look when you talk about this to doctors.. as though ‘hey its just a leep though?? ‘ but its just ‘your vagina’..’how can that mean loss of pleasure??.
      Whoever came up with the concept of cutting out part of the cervix should be held accountable.

      I will ask anyone reading this who has experienced this to please join the new closed facebook support page that has been started recently that will provide a safe place for advice and support. Women should not be going through this alone.

      https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=healing%20from%20leep%2Flletz

      or

      healing from leep/lletz

  7. Hi again Asha, I also wanted to add, that I am a writer, and have thought for a long time about writing something about what happened. I wondered if you’d be interested in being interviewed for an article about this?

  8. I am literally in tears now. I have been alone up until last month when I got a boyfriend. I mean I was having sex with him until I had the LEEP procedure in 11/2016 and it has been horrible since then
    I love him so much. But after reading this, Ima just have to gone head twll him to find another girlfriend because my feelings down there aint never coming back. I think I might sue my doc as well for malpractice for neglecting to tell me this could possibly happen and not giving me any options.

    1. Hi Krissy,
      Im so sorry for the delay in my reply. I saw your message and it has broken my heart to read. I have been thinking about you a lot and I just want you to know I am here, I hear you and understand.
      I also have tried to take legal action, but discovered sadly that it is very difficult as a woman to do so. it seems there is still very little monetary value for any legal case, as it is (only??) our sexual being that is being destroyed by these surgeries, not our fertility.
      Sadly, according to the medical industry..Men have sexual organs, we have ‘reproductive’ ones.

      We are living in the wrong century.

      I hope so so much that your journey is different. Its only been a few months right? There is every chance that you might be one of the lucky ones. You might heal. It might be short term damage.
      I also feel strongly that you are going to need support. I lost both my parents, my job and a lot of friends around the same time this was happening, I withdrew so much with the shock of it. I felt alien in myself. It took a lot to stay sane.
      I know how it feels going from being passionate and intimate, where you own and value your body and can give and receive love.. to being unable to maintain a relationship or even be close, but if your boyfriend has worked through this with you so far, can you try to keep him with you? I have no idea how that advice sounds, I just know how hard it is do do this alone. I would love to speak more to you.

      Im not sure if you have read the below posts but I am keen to get these situations properly documented. There is a team of medical researchers I am in contact with working on stopping this happening. If you would speak to them it would make a huge difference. The system needs to change but unless we speak out, no one will listen. Please let me know if you are willing.
      I am with you every step. You did not deserve this.

  9. Asha,

    Can we speak? I was just given the news that I have ASC-H and the biopsy shows HSIL. My doctor will probably tell me on Monday to go ahead with the LEEP. I want to be fully aware of my options before agreeing to anything.

    Please e-mail me.

    1. Hi,

      It is rare to have the severe symptoms as the ones I have from this, but as you can see from any online search, and the comments below, it happens. The numbers are significant enough to take seriously.

      I have found out its actually about 11%, which considering is a permanent life changing loss, should be reported. No man would ever have to go through a surgical clipping of any part of their sexual body.

      Loss of feeling in for women just isnt written into the medical books. they don’t care. We are still living in the dark ages, so until they do, you have the right to defend yourself from risks.

      And spread the word!! show them this page, show them a google search for sex after leep! There are so many people out there who have been castrated and neutralised by this. Gyne’s need to start to respect it.

      I would recommend having a treatment, but ask for lazer or cryo.. and if you have to go back more times, thats nothing in the long run to losing your one chance at love and intimacy.

      That is my advice. I can only say how I would do things if I had another shot at life!! I hope whichever road you take you recover and are healthy soon.

      Please let me know if I can help in any way further.
      Asha

      1. HI Asha, I just read your post while crying. Thank you so much for writing this. It’s taken me ten years, to even be able to google search to see if there are other people who suffered what I have. Do you know of any support group online for people who have gone through this? I have felt like the only one for so long.

  10. I had been left on a high dose birth pill for 17 years, had a cone biopsy and 4 days later, suffered a thrombosis in my left calf.
    Put on warfarin, I was then rushed into a hysterectomy only a few weeks later. Six days after this major op. I suffered a massive haemorrhage, on a Sunday night (No surgeons in the hospital). – a major artery had not been stitched up properly; after several hours, the bleeding would not stop – too much warfarin and heparin had been given! – all vital signs were diminishing fast, had blood transfusion, oxygen etc. I’ll spare you more horrendous details.
    It took almost 2 years to recover from this and I’ve always felt weakened since that horrendous year.
    This was all 35 years ago; somehow I survived. Since then I have had another DVT, and other times when my blood gets thick. My GP denies this and I paid for private tests -that showed blood clotting inappropriately within the vessels.
    I have learned not to rely on any doctor for my health, but to be aware of my own symptoms.
    If my blood gets thick again (I wake every hour and a half through the night and have this strong urge to massage calves and walk about)
    Now I recognise this and take ginger, garlic and fish oils. It works.
    Keep away from doctors and hospitals as much as possible. They are dangerous places.

  11. May I also suggest another website that supports naturalistic healing through vitamins and nutrition. It’s a great source of information and HOPE to anyone who has received scary news. Do not be convinced my popular medical advice that gives no other option but surgery. You DO have other options and you have been gifted with a beautiful body that has indescribable means of curing itself when given the proper nutrition.

    http://flowingfree.org/how-to-heal-cervical-dysplasia-naturally/

  12. I was just told today that I need a LEEP procedure and was scared out of my mind. The doctors told me the same thing you ladies heard… it’s not a big deal and has no major side effects. I’ve been praying for healing for over 6 months and KNEW the doctor’s advice was wrong but didn’t know why. I’ve looked into alternative healing with vitamins and bought the Ty Bollinger series a few weeks back, but hadn’t watched the episode on cervical cancers.

    I AM SO THANKFUL that you wrote this article and shared your painful story. Because of you, I will refuse to have the LEEP procedure and will go forth with my natural healing approach with confidence!

    God can do miracles. The power of prayer is the greatest gift he has given us. “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.” –Matthew 7:7

  13. I am happy you have written this. I am post leep 6 years . My sex life was fantastic until leep..i can no longer have sex because it is too painful..wrecking my marriage and left me desolate. 11 years prior to leep I had had cryo surgery which if I had to choose again I would certainly choose the cryo. I had no complications with the leep healing..but it left me desolated and when i say sex hurts I mean it..its like razor blades..so I cant..literally. i no longer go to the doc who did the leep..he was totally heartless and pretty much said guess you will be sexless. I am now considering malpractice. I am now going to another doc who does care and is trying to help..but yet to no avail. So guess i will be alone the rest of my days..lets face it.a partner needs intimacy and i cant have that now..thank you for making people aware of the dangers of leep.

    1. Wow, I am so sorry, this is like hearing my own story. Its hard to put the loss of intimacy into words. Losing intimacy, whether alone or not. Has been utter devastation for me. People think Im lonely.. but its a completely different type of emptiness. I have also been managing with this for just over 6 horrible years. Holding on by the skin of my teeth.
      I would have done anything to have someone understand. So it means a lot that you have also reached out.
      Thankyou.
      I went to see a research team last year as I mentioned in my original post, who are picking up on this,and there have been comparisons to the effects of hysterectomy.. again, something so savage no one will understand unless its been experienced.

      I have been written as part of a case study they are doing to try and highlight the risks to the global gaenacolgy practice, and they are also doing a study of the nerves in this part of the body. (This hasnt been done before believe it or not!!!) Would you be willing to speak to them? It could be over the phone and anonymously, and each of our voices being heard means more doctors learning.

      I hear your pain completely and will be thinking of you
      x

    2. HI,
      I hope you are ok.
      Have you had a chance to think about what I said in my previous response? About helping by challenging the system and becoming an anonymous case study? The contacts I have are the best in the field and are making really big steps to highlight women’s health risks. It wouldn’t take long to put you in touch and could push research in the right direction.

      Making people aware online is one thing.. making doctors aware and challenging the system is what will eventually make a difference!
      X best wishes.
      A

  14. Thank you so much for writing this. I am almost three weeks post leep and feel a wreck. The margins of the biopsy were positive so the doctor potentially wants to amputate more of my cervix in 2 months. I feel like shit and cant stop crying. This article made me feel less alone, thank you.

    1. Hi J,

      Thankyou for writing and sharing this. I am so sorry you are going through this. I want to help, I am doing as much as I can to highlight that there is a risk to this procedure, why and how much is still completely unknown which is why we all need to speak out.. otherwise the doctors and the system will just assume its safe and just continue.
      Can I ask if you are so upset because they are removing a part of you and you are scared? or are you struggling with actual lost sensation and nerve damage? A friend of mine was recently called in for a leep and I urged her to ask and ask about other options. She ended up having a newer type of treatment. laser/ or laser vaporisation?..and is fine. Im not saying thats the answer but look into it! Doctors wont discuss options unless you ask as its probably more expensive for them and you may have to go back a few times.
      If I could reverse time, I would do 100 alternative treatments if it meant feeling those feelings again.
      Ive also not heard of anyone having long term sexual damage from cryo treatment so mabee ask about that too. I dont know but could assume that it doent cut so deep so allows more potential for healing?.. Please let me know more about your symptoms if you can face it.
      Another thing to remember, is that there is a lot of information now on how to blast your body full of nutrients, certain supplements, and natural products, if taken seriously have been known to do things to reverse cell changes that medical industry will take a long time to catch up on. I dont want to preach about this as its a personal choice, but you should definately look into it.. I have no doubt that our cells need nourishment not chemicles and toxins to heal. Especially in this toxic world.
      Ty bollinger has a lot of information that I found really interesting, that can be used alongside conventional methods to clear your body.
      I really hope you dont have to go back, and that you are not one of the statistics.
      xxx

      1. After a year and 3 months of working diligently to heal my body my Pap smear came back the same. Severe dysphasia/high grade lesion and hvp. Apparently, the test can’t show if it has gotten worse. I would have to go in for a biopsy to know more. I feel so strongly in the body’s ability to heal itself and so against the tradition of cutting and remove female body part. I already had my uterus removed 10 years ago. I don’t want them taking anything else. But at this last report I’m getting nervous. Should I have a procedure done to remove the abnormal cells. So you know of any doctors who are treating this in a different way? Even naturopaths are bound to this archaic method.

        1. Im sorry Judy you are going through this.

          Did they remove your womb because of a cancer risk? or did they say it was fibroids or something different? I am not an expert in any of the alternatives but I feel strongly that leep is NOT the answer. I have learned that because there are no regulations or specifics on the surgery.. NO knowledge of the nerves or respect (or even proper medical documentation) of our sexual function, women are being used as guinie pigs on the back of this missing information.. and none of these procedures are tested on humans properly before being rolled out on mass.
          The more I read, learn and experience on natural healing, the more fascinating and potentially powerful I am beginning to find it. Also.. therefore the more corrupt the (marketing of medicine) mass persuasion of society to ‘not trust’ or dismiss it as ‘witchery’ or ‘hippy rubbish’ seems.
          The implication of this is huge. Doctors are not bad people.. they are generally amazing people!.. but who are they working for??? we all think they work for ‘science’ therefore they are ‘right’. However, from my journey, of working directly wth scientists and a research team on this.. I know for a fact medicine and science are two very different things. Doctors are ‘sold’ drugs and procedures from a very carefully coordinated effort of sometimes either very old data, or very manipulated data by those who have a finical interest. And this is not always science.
          Please join the fb group that has been set up. The person directly running that page has a strong interest in alternative and natural healing. As I do also, but am not focussing on that at the moment as my primary interest is getting the team I am a case study for to continue to progress of the neurological work and to publish these findings so doctors are forced to change their backward thinking.

          Here is the fb page search link to a lot of women who have many opinions and thoughts on this;

          healing from leep/lletz

          There are women on their who have been working on natural healing and their are links to other pages.

          Also, If you would prefer to stick wth the doctors.. It is interested that women are not being given the choice to have the laser or cryo surgery on displasia because it is more expensive. I have never read any reports on the kind of devastating symptoms from these. Doctors will say it is ‘less effective’.. but this only means you might have to been seen again for checks….but rather than having a sexual amputation (which is effective what a leep is) I would rather one of those alternatives personally!!!
          When I was scared that this might come back.. as they tried to terrify me it would.. I took something called AHCC/ reseracher;Judith Smith.. this is a very powerful Japanese mushroom supplement..that is said to have anti cancer possibilities if taken in the right way. I think asking about laser, or reading up on this and also speaking to the fb group on healing would help you.
          Best wishes
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