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Endometriosis, Lupron, and Fluoroquinolones: A Recipe for Autonomic Disintegration

Published on March 10, 2026

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Endometriosis, Lupron, Fluoroquinolones and Dysautonomia

I am sharing my health story in the hopes that someone can offer assistance. I had stage 4 endometriosis for years before it was diagnosed. On top of that, I have had reactions in antibiotics, including fluoroquinolones and was given Lupron. Each drug destroyed more of my health. I am currently bedridden, in pain and unable to function. I have lost hearing in my right ear, have Sjögren’s syndrome, Hashimoto’s, adrenal insufficiency, hypokalemia, electrolyte imbalances, IBS, MCS, Ocular migraines and recently, have been diagnosed with dysautonomia. My body feels like it is disintegrating. We believe that everything is related, that I have mitochondrial issues at the root of these illnesses, but to date, no one has been able to put the pieces together. With the help of my husband, I have put together my health history. We are looking for input.

Early Warning Signs

1985: late summer, I was hit by car while riding bicycle. I was banged up really bad and definitely had head injury.

1998: started feeling off, not sure yet at this point still very young

2001: birth of my first daughter. I developed severe preeclampsia and had an emergency C-section three days later. My daughter was 6 weeks early and spent two weeks in the intensive care unit.

2002-2003: I felt off at times and did go to GP on several occasions. I had pain shot to my back. I am not sure what it was but it took the pain away. I also kept saying just didn’t feel well. I felt off but nothing was found.

2005: the birth of our son and second C-section. I was on bed rest last three months of the pregnancy. I was given an antibiotic for some reason. I do not remember. I had a reaction to it and turned orange. The doctor gave me something else to counter the effects of the antibiotic and my color returned to normal. It was a normal birth.

2006-2007: I was still in pain. The pain moved to the abdominal area. I developed bowel issues, had and ovarian cyst. I saw gastrointestinal physician who did scans and found a thickening of the lining of uterus. He referred us back to the gynecologist who did D&C in 2007 and said I had very minuscule amount of endometriosis.

2008- 2009: still seeing OB for pelvic pain, also seeing multiple other doctors including a neurologist, internist, and surgeon. Everyone kept saying same thing: ‘Your fine. It’s in your head.” They wanted to put me on mood enhancers. I tried lorazepam and felt terrible on it, so I stopped after two weeks.

The Lupron Disaster

September 2009: I started doing Lupron injections from gynecologist. She was very forceful with me and stated “if you don’t do these injections I can’t help you.” She said it was the only way they could know if the pain was below the belly or above. I agreed reluctantly, but at that time still thought my doctors had their best interests in me. After the first injection, my doctor called at home on a Saturday to see how I was feeling. I responded I was already in pain, but it has now quadrupled and I feel like an old person. Every bone in my body hurt. I couldn’t believe the amount of pain I was in. She said I had to get all 6 injections if it were to be able to help me.

At that time, my husband because of work only went to a few of my appointments. I soon began to have him go with me because I felt I was getting the run around.

Hearing Loss Post-Lupron: Let’s Add Fluoroquinolones and Steroids to the Mix

2010: the last injection was in February. I began to lose my hair. I had memory loss, stabbing and taser sensations in head. I was still getting pains in abdomen area. In September, I went in for ear pain. The ENT said it looked like a scratch, so he gave me fluoroquinolone drops. I had also taken other fluoroquinolone antibiotics for yeast infections earlier in the year. In October, I had sudden sensorineural hearing loss in the right ear. Within an hour, I called my husband told him my hearing was acting weird. I went totally deaf in my right ear, 8 months after my last injection of Lupron. My local ENT immediately gave me a shot of cortisone (I was able to still walk and drive). It all went crazy when my ENT put me on a large dose of oral prednisone for 14 days. Everything in my body went nuts. I was rolling out of bed, holding on to the walls to help me walk. I totally lost my balance. The oral prednisone really did a number on my head. I had done genetic testing through 23andMe and our doctor upload the report to a reader called Opus23. It said that I should never take prednisone.

I went to Stanford Medical and saw top ENT and received three cortisone injections into the right ear drum. Had a 50/50 chance for recovery and for me it didn’t work. I left Stanford with them telling me they still don’t have all the answers yet when it comes to sudden hearing loss. They thought it was some sort of viral infection that attacked the ear drum and deafened the ear. After the hearing loss. I had three ER visits. This is when I first started having low potassium. I felt like I was about to pass out. I was still driving at this time, I didn’t know what to think.

2011 -2012: I began seeing a naturopathic physician. I also did a trip down to LA to the House Ear clinic to see some specialist regarding her hearing loss. They couldn’t help either. I left my current OB and started seeing the physician who was filling in. I ended up doing a partial hysterectomy with her after finding a growth at one of my numerous ER visits that year. I was still working and a full-time mommy, while dealing with massive pain in my lower abdomen and now starting to deal with multiple autoimmune diseases including: Sjögren’s syndrome, Hashimoto’s, adrenal insufficiency. In addition, a lot of my minerals and vitamins were off at that time. I suspect this was beginning of my dysautonomia. I also began seeing an endometriosis specialist at Stanford.

Was it Endometriosis All Along?

2013: On January 31^st, I had laparoscopic surgery to clear the endometriosis. I had stage 4 endometriosis which took my appendix. The physician said my body was littered with endometriosis. He even checked up in my heart cavity to make sure no endometriosis had made its way up to the heart. Before the surgery, I was talking with the anesthesiologist and telling him about my hearing loss and my low potassium. That is when he stopped the surgery and I had to take a stress test. We left and went to Palo Alto heart center and did a stress test I fasted for 24 hours and then they had me go do a stress test on a treadmill on an empty stomach. I did it no problem and went back to the surgery center. That is when they did the laparoscopic surgery and found stage 4 endometriosis.

Also, I want to point out that we didn’t find out until much later that during the course of the endometriosis surgery, they had left surgical clips and suturing material in me. We discovered this at one of our many ER visits. The OR report from our doctor says nothing about these things being left inside of me. I believe this is an additional pain I have on top of the other complications in my abdomen area. Nothing like having a wad of surgical clips throughout my abdomen and suturing material left inside my already struggling body. We are trying to get these removed, but no surgeon will take my case.

Mitochondrial Damage and Autonomic Disintegration

April that year, I had another ER visit. I lost all bodily functions. My potassium was severely low. I would go to the ER in 2013 many more times.

2014: I had to stop working totally this year. I tried to come back and assist a friend of mine just being her loan officer assistant but the neurological pains and crazy foggy brain I was experiencing was just too much. Something that was so easy for me years earlier, I was now having trouble just doing basic loan officer task at this point. Strange neurological pains were becoming a normal. I stopped driving this year also. It was just getting to scary for me to continue. I continued to go to ER for multiple visits

2014- 2017: I went to the ER over 50 times for various reasons: heart pains, chest pains, shooting stabbing pains throughout my entire body. I almost always had low potassium. Over these years, we spent our life savings and pulled out a $100,000 from my husband’s 401k, which we spent on various treatment plans. We have traveled as far away to Philadelphia looking for answers. We even gutted our house when we were told at one time it must be mold that is killing me. We lived in a borrowed 5th wheel while my husband put our house back together. There have been numerous days where I felt I couldn’t go on one more minute. I felt like death was right around the corner.

In 2015 one of our doctors after reading my genetic report thought he found a breakthrough with a patient that had hypokalemia and Sjogren’s syndrome. He provided me a copy of the study they did on a girl with very similar symptoms to mine. He had our local compounding pharmacy mix a solution called Shohl’s. I took the solution after my doctor assured me I would be ok. Well, I tried it almost within in minutes I was convulsing and went into tachycardia. My husband called 911 ambulance took me to the ER. In route to hospital paramedic gave me nitroglycerin. I was monitored for several hours and eventually went home. During this time had been staying at my mother-in-law’s house for about 6 months because we weren’t sure at this point if something in our house was making me so sick. This was a very stressful time for me at this point we have no idea what’s going on and what’s causing this.

We did have some relief in 2017 when our local naturopathic doctor was able to get a new treatment called UBL or ultraviolet blood irradiation. I had about 6 months where I was feeling off, but having somewhat good days where I could semi-function. My viral count has been very high during these years, EBV, CMV, HHV6, etc., and possibly Lyme. If I push myself, I will crash for hours sometimes days until I start to get any strength back just to walk to the restroom.

Next, I went in for a completely different treatment called prolotherapy. I got one injection into my shoulder, and just like that my body reverted back to like I was before the UBL treatments. I was worse again. It was very strange my body reacted like that.

2016: I was diagnosed with dysautonomia by another specialist, an electrophysiologist cardiologist. I have several of the sub symptoms of dysautonomia including: postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS), neurocardiogenic syncope (NCS), dizziness, vertigo, fainting, fast, slow or irregular heartbeat, chest pain, low blood pressure, problems with gastrointestinal system, nausea, disturbances in visual field, weakness, breathing difficulties, mood swings, anxiety, fatigue and intolerance to exercise, migraines, disrupted sleep patterns, temperature regulation problems, concentration and memory problem, poor appetite and overactive sense, especially when exposed to noise and light. We also met with a dozen or so other specialists. None were able to help.

I have multiple tears in both hips worse on right side. Multiple torn areas in the pelvic floor also. Surgery is out of pocket and we have not been able to fly back and have surgery to repair those tears and hips yet as of 2019.

2018- 2019: I went to the ER only three times in 2018 and so far only three times in 2019. We try not to go because we know they never find much. I only go to be reassured that my vitals are still strong when I’m feeling at my worst. I have been denied disability. I had a neurocardiogenic seizure in the courtroom with judge and she still denied me. I have one last appeal that I am waiting on. I am not very hopeful that will go through. At this point, the dysautonomia, fibromyalgia/ chronic neurological pain and the low potassium are what are the hardest things for me to deal with. As of right now, we are concentrating on rebuilding my mitochondrial cells in hoping I can reverse some or most of the damage I think was a direct cause from the Lupron injections.

I was also on bio-identical progesterone creme from around 2012 to 2018. Then, in middle of 2018, my ND wanted me to try the bio-identical that went off the lunar moon cycle. It was a separate estrogen and progesterone creme in a plastic push-up type applicator. She said she was looking into it and thought it might help. Well, I tried it and had terrible side effects, I think most likely from the adding in the estrogen. After second month, I was having terrible stomach pains. I looked four months pregnant and was begging my husband to take me to the ER. The pain was worst at the part of the cycle where I took the estrogen only. I felt like she was going to die. In the past, I was always high in estrogen. I am not sure, but as soon as I introduced in that estrogen, it threw me out of whack terribly. I stopped that in November of 2018.

This is where I am now: in pain, unable to work or care for my children. My husband is my full-time caregiver. He takes care of our kids, shops cooks, does everything I used to do plus works his full-time job. I couldn’t do this without him. The doctors have run out answers. I believe it was the endometriosis all along, made infinitely worse by Lupron and the various rounds of antibiotics, including fluoroquinolones. The only way I can maintain my potassium levels is through huge daily doses. Otherwise, I slide into hypokalemia. We have a standing order at our local hospital to measure my potassium whenever I suspect it is low. We have sought treatment from dozens of specialists and spent our entire life savings and I am no better than I was 10 years ago. In fact, I am worse. Over the last 8 years, we have been supplementing with vitamins and minerals to try and repair the damage done to my mitochondria by the Lupron and the fluoroquinolones. Some things help and others do not. We are at wits end and do not know where to turn for help. Below is a list of supplements that I currently take.

Supplement List

Upon waking:

600mg potassium,
1 1/4 grain Naturethroid

Breakfast:

3 200mg potassium. Daily total 1200mg
1 Chewable Hydroxo B-12
1 COQ10 100MG
1 Biotin 10,000mcg chewable
1 Chromium picolinate 200mcg chewable
1 Desiccated adrenal from Standard process
1 magnesium malate 100mg
1 Thiamin 50mg
1 Mitocore – it is like a multiple vitamin
5 grams vitamin C, mixed with juice, plus I add Lugol’s iodine, colloidal silver, lymph drain and trace mineral mix.

Mid-morning:

3 200mg potassium again – daily total 1800mg
B12 shot, a 100iu syringe

Lunch:

3 200mg potassium, daily total 2400mg
1 vitamin A 10.000iu
1 vitamin K 90mcg
1 Lugol’s iodine plus
1 nettle leaf cap 400mg
1 Monolaurin 600mg
2 L-lysine 1000mg
1 thiamin 50mg
1 magnesium malate 100mg
1 more Hydroxo B12

Diner:

3 200mg potassium, daily total 3000mg
1 thiamin 50mg
1 milk thistle 150mg
2 L-lysine 1000mg
1 DHEA 25mg
1 magnolia bark 450mg
1 Digestive enzymes
1 Dr. Berg Hair formula.
1 L-carnitine 250mg

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Thiamine for Fibromyalgia, CFS/ME, Chronic Lyme, and SIBO-C

by AMZ

Published on February 26, 2026

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The Road to Thiamine

In August 2020, I was at my wits end. I had developed gastroparesis in March 2020, after 10 days of metronidazole (Flagyl), for a H. Pylori infection and SIBO-C symptoms. After seven days, I developed the symptoms usually associated with the intake of this drug – nausea, confusion, anxiety, paranoid thinking and mild gastroparesis symptoms. I no longer had bowel movements initiated by my body and had to use enemas twice a week. This state continued and worsened until the end of July 2020, when I also had a surgery for stage 4 endometriosis.

I managed to stay alive those months by eating an elemental diet (90%) and a few bits of solid food such as white rice, goat cheese, or lean meat. After the surgery, however, my gastroparesis got worse. I contacted my family doctor at the end of August and told her that I could no longer eat any solid food without severe nausea and that I need to be in a hospital to be fed intravenously or with a gastric tube. She agreed that my situation demanded immediate attention and she wrote me the referral for an inpatient hospital admission.

I was lucky though that at that exact time, I stumbled upon the low oxalate diet mentioned by a member of a Facebook group. I joined the Trying Low Oxalate (TLO) group on Facebook and read what researcher Susan Owens wrote about oxalates. I started implementing it and realized that small portions of low oxalate food every 2-3 hours were accepted by my body. In a few weeks my gastroparesis symptoms were reduced and my belly pain diminished.

From the Low-Oxalate Diet to Discovering Beriberi Disease

At some point in September 2020, while researching oxalates, I found Elliot Overton’s videos on oxalates and I listened to them. I also read his articles on this website where he talks about allithiamine, a thiamine supplement that contains something called TTFD, as being something radically different in terms of its unparalleled effects on the human body. I was skeptical, because I had spent about 20,000 euro on supplements in the previous four years, each of them being promoted as health-inducing by big names in the field of chronic Lyme disease, MTHFR, CFS/ME, SIBO and so on, while their effects on my health were only partial and temporary at best.

I decided that this would be the last supplement I’d buy. The worse would be losing 40 euros and I had already spent too much on worthless treatments. I took 150 mg allithiamine + magnesium + B2 + B3 for 3 weeks and I was less tired, could move more around the house, and overall was feeling much better, even my extreme light sensitivity was subsiding. Then I stopped taking it, not sure it was doing anything. That’s when I knew that it had worked and that I needed it badly. I took the same dosage for another 2 weeks. The next three weeks I had to wait to receive it from the USA, and I was again completely bed ridden.

However, I used this time to read most of Dr. Derrick Lonsdale’s book on thiamine deficiency. I became convinced that I had dry beriberi and that most of my neurological symptoms were caused by thiamine deficiency. I also noticed that the dosage is highly individual and some individuals needed very high doses of thiamine per day in order to function.

I now understood, why 2015 was the year I became bedridden for most than 90% of the time: I spent 6 months in a very hot Asian country, as part of my master degree studies. The energy requirement to deal with the hot weather and the demanding job depleted my already low thiamine levels. At that time, I was on my way to diabetes as well. I had fasting blood sugar levels of 120 mg/dl. I could no longer assimilate/use carbs in the quantities my body required (70% of the daily caloric intake) and I was always hungry and always thirsty. Looking back on my childhood and my ever-declining health from 2008 onwards, it was clear to me that I had problems with thiamine.

The Astonishing Effects of Thiamine

In December 2020, I increased my thiamine dosage to 300 mg per day and I was astonished at the changes I experienced – an 80% reduction across all my symptoms and some even completely disappear.

Mid-January, I decided to increase my allithiamine dosage to 450-600 mg because I felt like my improvements were stagnating. I also noticed that during the days I was more physically active (meaning: I cooked food for longer that 10-15 minutes, my energy levels were higher when I was taking more allithiamine and I didn’t experience the typical post-exertional malaise I was used to in the past). I also noticed that taking allithiamine alone in high doses doesn’t work so well and that the active B complex capsules and the B3 I was taking did have an important part to play in how I felt.

In the beginning of February, I was craving sugars so badly, that I gave in and bought a cake for my birthday. I ate two slices and discovered that my mental confusion, the brain fog and generally poor cognitive skills improved “overnight”. I was astonished, since I had been led to believe that “carbs are bad”, “sugar is bad” and “gluten is bad” and that the problem was with the food itself rather than with my body missing some vital nutrients. I didn’t experience any side effects from the gluten either, even though my food intolerance test shows a mild reaction to gluten containing cereals.

By February 20th, this high-dose allithiamine ‘protocol’ and the ability to eat carbs again, eliminated all of my symptoms of SIBO-C/IBS-D/slow transit constipation, endometriosis, CFS/ME, fibromyalgia, constant complicated migraine with aura, severe food intolerances, including a reversal of my poor cognitive skills. I was able to discuss highly philosophical concepts again, for one hour, without suffering from headaches and insomnia.

Early Metabolic and Mitochondrial Myopathies

On February 21^st, I decided to go for a walk. I walked in total that day 500 meters AND walked up four flights of stairs, because I live on the 4th floor without an elevator. By the end of that day, my disease returned and I became bedridden again. I could not believe it. This was the only thing I did differently. I just walked slowly.

And so I searched the internet for “genetic muscle disease”, because my sister shares the same pattern of symptoms. A new world opened before my eyes. I found out that in the medical literature, exercise intolerance, post-exertional malaise and chronic fatigue are well known facts and are described in conditions known as “myopathies”. That there are several causes for myopathy and that they can be acquired (vitamin D or B1 deficiency, toxic substances impacting the mitochondria, vaccines and so on) or inherited. It was also interesting to find out that while doctors manifestly despise and disbelieve CFS/ME symptoms, they are not utterly unknown and unheard of or the product of “sick” minds.

When I read this paper, although old and maybe not completely accurate in the diagnostics, I understood everything about my health issues.

I remembered my mother telling me that my pediatrician said he suspected muscular dystrophy when I was one years old, because I could not gain weight. I weighed only 7 kg at the age of one year, but he wasn’t convinced and so no tests were done in communist Romania. In addition to being overly thin, throughout my childhood, I always had this “limit” that I couldn’t go past when walking uphill or if I ran up a few flights of stairs, no matter how fit and in shape I was. Otherwise, I would develop muscle weakness such that my muscles felt like jelly. I would become completely out of breath, which I now know is air hunger. I couldn’t climb slightly steeper slopes without stopping 2/3 of the way up. My heart would beat very hard and very fast. I would feel like I was out of air and collapse. I first experienced this at the age of 5-6 and these symptoms have been the main feature of my physical distress since.

Because of these symptoms, I have led a predominantly sedentary lifestyle with occasional physical activity, never daily, apart from sitting in a chair at school. I didn’t play with classmates for more than 5 minutes. I couldn’t participate in physical education classes. Any prolonged daily physical activity led to general weakness, muscle cramps, prolonged muscle “fever”, and so I avoided them.

Now, I know why. Since reading this article, I was able to present my entire medical history to a neurologist and my symptoms were instantly recognized as those of an inherited mitochondrial or metabolic myopathy. I am currently waiting for the results of the genetic tests ordered by the neurologist, which will make it possible to get the right types of treatments when in a medical setting.

Before Thiamine: A Long History of Unexplained Health Issues

In addition to the problems with gaining weight and inability to be active, I had enuresis until 9 years old, along with frequent dental infections, and otitis. I had pain in my throat every winter, all winter and low blood pressure all the time. At 14 years of age, I weighed about 43-45 kg. I remained at that weight until age 27. I had a skeletal appearance. I also had, and continue to have, very flexible joints. For example, my right thumb is stuck at 90 degrees, which I have to press in the middle to release. I can feel the bone repositioning and going into the joint. This happens at least once a week.

My diet was ovo-lacto-vegetarian diet, with 70% of the calories coming from carbohydrates from when I was able to eat until 2015. In 2015, I could no longer process carbohydrate due to severe thiamine deficiency.

Since the age of 18, I have had quasi-constant back pain in the thoracic area. I have stretch marks on thighs, but have had no sudden weight gain/loss. Among the various diagnoses I had received before the age of 18 years old:

Idiopathic scoliosis – age 18. No treatment.
Iron deficiency anemia – at 18. Treatment with iron-containing supplements. No result.
Frequent treatments for infections (antibiotics)
Fasting hypoglycemia (until 2015).

The Fibromyalgia Pit

In 2008, my “fibromyalgia” symptoms began, although looking back at my history, many of these symptoms were there all along. I made a big change in my physical activity levels and this began my 12 year decline in health. In 2008, I started my philosophy studies at the university and decided to get more “in shape” by walking daily to and from the university. A total of 6 km per day.

Constant fatigue, no energy.
Worsened back pain.
Weak leg muscles at the end of the day.
Frequent nightmares from which I could never wake up. I felt like I couldn’t find my way out of sleep. After waking up, I would sit down and after 10 minutes I found that my head had fallen on my chest and I had fallen asleep involuntarily, suddenly.
Sensations of waves of vibrations passing through me from head to toe, followed by the sensation of violent “coming out” of the body and out-of-body experiences.
Heightened menstrual symptoms.
Fairly frequent headaches.

Over the summer, I recovered completely as I resumed my predominantly sedentary lifestyle. Then, in the fall, I began walking to and from university again, and my symptoms just got worse. This cycle continued for the next few years. My symptom list expanded to include:

Migrating joint pains.
Frequent knee tendinitis.
Pain in the heels.
Generalized pain, muscles, joints, bones.
Frequent headaches.
Sleep disturbance with insomnia beginning at 2-3am every night.
Frequent thirst, increased water intake (3-4 l/day).
Frequent urination, especially at night (woken 2-3 times).
Bumping my hands on doors/door frames.
Unstable ankles.
Painful “dry” rubbing sensation in hip/femur joint.
Prolonged angry spells.
Memory problems (gaps).
Difficulty learning new languages.

I underwent a number of tests including, blood tests, X-ray + MRI of the spine, and a neurological consultation. All that came back was high cholesterol (180 LDL, 60 HDL), low calcium, iron deficiency anemia, scoliosis, and hypoglycemia. No treatment was offered.

From February 2010-August 2010 I had a scholarship in Portugal. Philology studies interrupted. I was using public transport to go to classes, which were about only 3 hours a day. I required bed rest outside classes with only the occasional walk. I had a complete remission of all symptoms in July 2010 when I returned home and resumed my sedentary lifestyle. This was the last complete remission.

From August 2010 – December 2010, I resumed day courses at both universities and resumed the walking.

All of my symptoms were aggravated enough that by December I was bedridden. I stopped attending classes due to back pain in sitting position. I wrote two dissertations lying in bed. Once again, I sought medical advice and had a number of tests and consultations with specialists. I was diagnosed with peripheral polyneuropathy and “stress intolerance”, fibromyalgia. The treatment offered included:

Medical gymnastics: aerobics, yoga and meditation presumably to get me in shape and calm me down.
Calcium and iron supplementation, gabapentin, and low-dose mirtazapine.

The physical activity worsened symptoms, as it always does. The mirtazapine improved my sleep. I took it for 2 weeks and then stopped because I was gaining weight extremely fast.

From 2011 – October 2012, I was almost completely bedridden. I had to take a year off because I couldn’t learn anything, my head hurt if I tried. The physical symptoms improved after about a year, as did the deep and total fatigue. I tried to get my driver’s license in 2012, but failed. I couldn’t remember the maneuvers and the order in which to perform them. I couldn’t concentrate consistently on what was happening on the road. There was too much information to process very quickly.

From 2012-2015, I was getting my master’s in France. This aggravated all of my symptoms of exertion, both physical and intellectual. In 2013, I underwent general anesthesia for a laparoscopic surgery due to endometriosis, after which something changed in my body and I never fully recovered to previous levels of health. I took another year break between the two years of master’s studies. I couldn’t learn anymore. Symptoms relieved a bit by this break. After three months in Thailand for a mandatory internship, in one of the most polluted cities in the world, I got sick and developed persistent headache, with very severe cognitive difficulties. At this point, 90% of my time was spent in bed.

A general anesthetic in the autumn of 2015 for a nose tumor biopsy was the “coup de grâce”. Since then, I only partially recovered a few hours after a fluid infusion in the emergency ward and a magnesium infusion during a hospital stay in Charites Berlin in 2016. Other improvements: daily infusions of 1-2 hours with vitamins or ceftriaxone.

How I Feel Since Discovering Thiamine

In order to recover from the crash I experienced in February, I increased my B1 (TTFD) intake mid-March and made sure I was eating carbs every three hours, including during the night. I need about 70% of my total caloric intake to come from carbs.

I am currently taking 1200 mg B1 as TTFD, divided in 4 doses, 600-1200 mg magnesium, 500 mg B2/riboflavin, 3 capsules of an active, methylated B vitamin complex, 80-200 mg Nicotinamide 3X per day and 1-2 capsules of a multi-mineral and a multi-vitamin. I make sure I eat enough proteins, especially from pork meat, because it contains high amounts of BCAAs and helps me rebuild muscles.

I walked again the last week of April 2021, 500m in one day, because of a doctor’s appointment. I did not experience a crash that day or the following days. I did not have to spend weeks recovering from very light physical activity.

I can now use my eye muscles again, and read or talk with people online. I can cook one hour every day without worsening my condition.

After 5 years of constant insomnia, only slightly and temporarily alleviated by supplements, I can finally sleep 7.5 hours every night again. I no longer wake up 4-5 times a night.

My wounds are healing and my skin is no longer extremely dry and cracked.

My endometriosis, SIBO-C, gastroparesis, food intolerances, “fibromyalgia” pain, muscle pain due to hypermobility, are all gone.

And to think that all of this was possible because of vitamin B1 or thiamine, in the form of TTFD and that I almost didn’t buy it, because I no longer believed in that ONE supplement that would help me!

I will always be grateful for the work Dr. Derrick Lonsdale, MD, researcher Chandler Marrs, PhD and Elliot Overton, Dip CNM CFMP, have done so far in understanding, treating and educating others about chronic illnesses. More than anything, more than any physical improvement I experienced so far thanks to their work, what I gained was truth. Truth about a missing link, multiple diseases being present at one time and about why I have been sick my entire life.

Physical Symptoms and Diagnoses Prior to Taking Thiamine

Fibromyalgia and polyneuropathy diagnostic and mild, intermittent IBS-C since 2010;
Endometriosis symptoms aggravating every year, two surgeries, stage 4 endometriosis in 2020;
Surgeries under general anesthesia severely worsened my illness and set my energy levels even lower than they were before;
CFS/ME symptoms, hyperglycemia/pre-diabetes, constant 2-3 hours of insomnia per night and constant 24/7 headache since 2015, following an infection and during my stay in a very hot climate;
POTS, Dysautonomia, Post Exertional Malaise Symptoms from minor activities, starting with 2016;
Increased food intolerances (gluten, dairy, sugar/sweets, histamine, FODMAPs, oxalates, Sulphur-rich foods), to the point of eating only 6 foods since 2018;
Chronic Lyme disease diagnostic based on positive ELISA and WB test for IgM, three months in a row, in 2017;
Weight gain and inability to lose weight after heavy antibiotic treatment, skin dryness, cracking, wounds not healing even for 1.5 years, intolerance to B vitamins and hormonal preparations, since 2017;
Complicated migraine symptoms and aura, light intolerance, SIBO-C and IBS-D, slow intestinal transit, following a 4 month period of intermittent fasting that made me lose 14 kg, living in bed with a sleep mask on my eyes 24/7, severe muscle weakness, since 2018;
Two weeks recovery time after taking a 10 minute shower;
Gastroparesis, living on an elemental diet, in 2020;
All my symptoms worsened monthly, before and during my period.

Treatments Tried Prior to Thiamine

Gluten, dairy, sugar/sweets, FODMAPs, histamine, oxalate, Sulphur-rich foods/supplements free diets; AIP, SCD, Wahl’s protocol, candida diets; high dose I.V. vitamins and antibiotics, oral vitamins and antibiotics, liver supplements and herbs, natural antibiotics (S. Buhner’s protocol), MTHFR supplements, alkalizing diet, essential oils, MCAS/MCAD treatment, SIBO/dysbiosis diets and protocols, insomnia supplements, and any other combination of supplements touted as helpful for such symptoms.

And this is just what I remember top of my head. Their effect was, at best: preventing further deterioration of my body, but healing was not present.

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Notes on Neuropathic Pain in Adenomyosis and Endometriosis

by Chandler Marrs, PhD

Published on January 26, 2026

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Every now again, I stumble upon research that upends my thinking about a particular topic. Over the last few months there have been three such articles that point to metabolic factors in the development adenomyosis and endometriosis. With adenomyosis, endometrial tissue grows aberrantly in the muscle wall of the uterus, a region called the myometrium. With endometriosis, endometrial tissue can implant itself virtually anywhere in the body. Both are incredibly painful, affect millions of women, and to date, have no known causes or effective treatments. I would like to review briefly some of that research here, as I continue to delve more deeply into this topic.

Of Stem Cells and Metabolism

The first was a story posted on the online journal called Quanta reviewing the latest in stem cell research. I dug into the research and wrote about it here. The gist: while genes provide a plan for cell development, and epigenetic variables fine tune that plan, metabolism ultimately determines whether or not, how, and in what location that blueprint is carried out. If metabolism is weak, everything changes, all the way down to whether or not that cell will become what it was ‘genetically programmed’ to become. In other words, metabolism drives genetic expression and cell fate decisions and not the other way around.

Paper two, identified active stems cells in menstrual blood that can be coaxed into becoming just about any cell type including: cardiomyocytic, respiratory epithelial, neurocytic, myocytic, endothelial, pancreatic, hepatic, adipocytic, and osteogenic cells. Not only that, stem cells from menstrual blood, in addition to being much easier to collect than those from bone marrow, the typical medium, they propagate rapidly, doubling every ~19 hours and can undergo up to “68 doublings without losing karyotypic normality or developing tumorigenic potential.” So, that stigma-ridden, presumed waste product turns out to be one of the most therapeutically and potentially diagnostically useful fluids in medicine. I wrote briefly about that research here.

Paper three – women with adenomyosis have demonstrably defunct Schwann cells at the interface between the endometrium and myometrium – a region called the endometrial myometrial interface (EMI). I suspect this is the case with endometriosis too, but have not found any research to confirm – yet. Briefly, the endometrium is outer layer of the uterus, where fertilized eggs embed should there be a pregnancy or that sloughs off monthly when there no pregnancy. The myometrium is the middle layer of uterus comprised of smooth muscle and innervated by adrenergic nerves that contract the muscle during pregnancy or monthly during menstruation. These nerves are lined with a protective covering called myelin. Myelin is comprised of Schwann cells. With adenomyosis, the myelin is frayed and so nerve conduction is problematic and incredibly painful. This is a neuropathy, just like the neuropathies in other nerves, only here it is in the uterus. That neuropathy is an important component of the disease process; one that potentially links the stem cell research and metabolic capacity to adenomyosis and endometriosis. Let me explain.

Connecting Some Dots

Combined, these three articles tell us a great deal about the unending pain some women experience monthly. Firstly, if stem cells need nutrients to become what they are supposed to become and to remain in their genetically programmed region of choice, disorders like adenomyosis and endometriosis that are marked by aberrant tissue growth, in the myometrium with adenomyosis, and potentially all over the body with endometriosis, these disorders are quite clearly driven by regional, if not systemic, and perhaps even genetically reduced, nutrient capacity. Why else would the stem cells responsible for growing the endometrium each month implant themselves in non-endometrial tissue? The stem cell research has demonstrated repeatedly, albeit in different cell types, that poor metabolic capacity, e.g. poor mitochondrial capacity/poor nutrient capacity, determines cell fate decisions. Applied to adenomyosis and endometriosis and we get poor metabolic capacity underlying the aberrant tissue growth.

Secondly, the pain women feel with these conditions, while certainly impacted by the physical obstruction of errant tissue growth or the response of that tissue to monthly hormone changes, may be largely neuropathic, and again, driven by poor metabolic capacity. Demyelinated nerves, wherever their location, causes intense pain. When nerves in the myometrium, those responsible for uterine contractions are demyelinated, the pain will be immeasurable. Importantly, demyelination can be attributed directly to insufficient metabolic capacity. In other words, the stem cells responsible for growing appropriately differentiated and healthy Schwann cells forming the myelin sheathing around the uterine nerves are essentially starving and thus forced to stay in what is called a de-differentiated state. In theory, this could be correctable with the appropriate metabolic factors. The two most clearly involved metabolic variables appear to be thiamine and l-carnitine. I will be exploring these pathways and their implications relative to adenomyosis and endometriosis in subsequent posts. For now though, know that both of these nutrients affect mitochondrial metabolism significantly.

Finally, the stem cells and other molecules sloughed off monthly in the menstrual fluid provide a window in to these disorders. Perhaps more so than any other test diagnostic test, it is entirely possible that by investigating stem cell development in the local environment from which they emerge, we could identify and ultimately correct, or at least support, the metabolic needs for proper cell function. In doing so, I believe it is possible to help millions of women live with less monthly pain.

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Menstrual Blood Contains Stem Cells

by Chandler Marrs, PhD

Published on January 5, 2026

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A paper published in 2007 reported finding stem cells in menstrual blood. In the almost two decades since, others have shown that those stem cells can be used therapeutically for a host of disease processes. Menstrual effluent also contains vitamins and minerals, and other important and testable components of human health. These discoveries are both mind-blowingly cool and shockingly obvious – or they should have been if we had ever bothered to consider what menstrual blood represents.

Menstrual effluent is quite literally the lining of tissue meant to grow a human that is sluffed off when pregnancy does not occur. Of course, it would have stem cells. Of course, it would contain vitamins and minerals, and of course, it would contain immune factors other components requisite for embryogenesis. Of course.

We never considered this though. Instead we bought into the long-held and largely misogynist beliefs perpetrated by western medicine – that menstrual blood was a dirty waste product, that women were smaller, more hysterical, and basically inferior men, and that reproductive health was somehow entirely separate from ‘real’ health. None of this is true, of course, but these notions are so pervasive and so thoroughly internalized, by men and women alike, that research we could have been doing decades ago, research that is likely to save lives and improve health, was never considered.

Heck, the body of research on fecal matter, an actual waste product, is enormous and growing. All the while, a bodily fluid that evolves from an organ to grow another human is paltry by comparison. Indeed, women’s health research in general is notoriously underrepresented in academic and medical circles. It always has been, and likely always will be, to the detriment of the 50% of the population responsible for ensuring the survival of the species.

All of that said, and my rant about the inequities of medical practice and research aside, the discovery, nay, recognition of stem cells and other diagnostically useful components in menstrual blood is a HUGE win for women’s health. What we do with that discovery, however, is still up for grabs. There are a few women led companies and research teams working to capitalize these findings some of these findings, but the work is yet very limited.

Where I think this research offers the greatest prospect for improving women’s health is in diagnosing, understanding, and then treating the litany of period-related and reproductive disorders that plague modern women. This includes: endometriosis, adenomyosis, fibroids, menorrhagia (heavy bleeding), PCOS, and of course, infertility. Menstrual blood could be window into each of these disease processes, especially when we consider nutrient composition and metabolism relative to stem cell proliferation.

If I were in this field, I would evaluate interactions between mitochondrial metabolism and the fate of menstrual stem cells. Recall my article from a few months back documenting research that showed how, into what, and where stem cells evolved was related to mitochondrial metabolism. Specifically, researchers have demonstrated that when the metabolic factors are favorable, meaning that adequate mitochondrial nutrients are available, stem cells develop predictably, but when metabolic factors are inadequate, stem cells travel in search of nutrients and develop anomalously.

The cell tests whether it has the materials in its environment. If it cannot execute the metabolism, then it won’t become that cell type, in spite of signals to differentiate.

This suggests that mitochondrial metabolism, not necessarily genetics or even epigenetics determines the fate of a stem cell. This makes sense when one considers that the mitochondria must produce the energy/ATP required for stem cell development along with the cofactors and substrates required for epigenetic modifications. So, while the genetic blueprint of the cell tells it to look and behave a certain way, and epigenetics may fine tune those commands, the mitochondria are the final arbiters of design and activity.

In this context, consider a disease process like endometriosis where cells travel and seed in unexpected regions. Sure there are genetic and epigenetic components, but might these ultimately be guided by impaired mitochondrial metabolism? If we were to look more closely at the menstrual effluent of women with endometriosis, assess stem cell progression, measure mitochondrial metabolism, regional nutrient capacity, and even evaluate regional toxicant exposures, I would venture that we could develop not only a more diagnostically useful model of the disease process, but also, treatment protocols that might actual curb or reverse the aberrant cell growth.

If we could do this for each of the so-called ‘reproductive’ or ‘menstrual’ disorders like adenomyosis, PCOS, fibroids, and menorrhagia, I bet we would find distinct patterns of reduced mitochondrial metabolism and poor nutrient capacity interacting with stem cell development. Some of those patterns might be correctable, or at least modifiable, and thus, would reduce the suffering of millions of women.

Alas, however, this would require an interest in, and funding for, women’s health research. And we all know where that stands.

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Lessons Learned About Recovering From Thiamine Deficiency

by AMZ

Published on November 24, 2025

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It has been a year since I started taking high dose vitamin B1 (thiamine) for a variety of chronic symptoms including: Lyme disease, CFS/ME, endometriosis, histamine intolerance and other food intolerances, SIBO, chronic complicated migraine with aura, chronic insomnia, chronic severe light and exercise intolerance, to name a few. By traditional medicine, each of these conditions was considered unique and thus treated individually. I have learned that they are not separate conditions, but simply different manifestations of disturbed mitochondrial metabolism. In my case, all of this was related to deficiencies in thiamine and other vitamins and minerals. My recovery has been difficult and I have made many mistakes along the way, but hopefully, I learned from them. I am publishing my story here so that you may also learn from my experience. You can read my original story here.

Lesson 1: Magnesium Formulation Is Important

Magnesium is required to change thiamine from its free form to the active form called thiamine pyrophosphate (TPP). Without sufficient magnesium, supplemental or consumed thiamine remains inactive and basically useless. This means that magnesium deficiency can cause a functional thiamine deficiency. I understood this, but what I did not understand, was that there are many different formulations of magnesium supplement, each with pros and cons relative to the individual’s specific needs. I thought they were all interchangeable.

For me, and for individuals with heart related symptoms, magnesium taurate is preferred. One of my first mistakes I made was to ignore Dr. Lonsdale’s comments in which he talked about the importance of taking magnesium taurate. I understood it as meaning that magnesium was important and did not understand that it was a special form of magnesium with cardio protective effects due to the taurine content.

When I initially took magnesium taurate, I noticed an increase in my wellbeing, especially in the fatigue and headache that I would develop after walking around the house or being intellectually active, but I didn’t know that it was the taurine component that was responsible for that change. For a while, I stopped taking magnesium taurate and returned to using other forms of magnesium (magnesium citrate or malate). They did not help as much as the taurate. During this time, I also realized that I do not tolerate magnesium glycinate or bisglycinate. If I take that form, I have a terrible headache on the right side of my head. The glycine activates glutamate via NMDA receptors in the brain causing some excitatory activity. This may be why I could not tolerate it. Others do not have a problem with magnesium glycinate.

Over the last two weeks, I was that taking magnesium malate and taurine separately. I wanted to avoid spending a lot of money on magnesium taurate, so I tried to buy a cheap form of magnesium – magnesium malate – and combine it with taurine which is inexpensive when purchased in bulk. This did not provide the same benefits as magnesium taurate. I experienced chest pressure and pain and my resting pulse went back to being higher than 65-70 BPM. Once I began taking magnesium taurate again, my heart rate and chest pain/pressure disappeared.

So the lesson here, is that different formulations of magnesium work for different people. It is important to research which form may work better for you and your set of symptoms and not to assume they are interchangeable.

Lessons 2-3: TTFD Degrades with Heat and Light and Interruptions to Thiamine Repletion Cause Setbacks

One other important thing I realized was that thiamine is destroyed by UV light. This meant that in August, when I put my TTFD powder (a form of synthetic thiamine that crosses cell barriers more easily) in a transparent container on the kitchen table, and left it there all day long while sunlight shone directly on it through the big windows in my kitchen, it was being destroyed every day. I experienced a big crash during that month, especially since I was taking all the other vitamins and minerals that were serving as co-factors. I could not explain it and was thinking that even this therapy was losing its effect, that my recovery was over, and that I could no longer hope for a better quality of life.

However, in September, I received my new order of TTFD powder. The very day I received it, I took my regular dosage from this new batch. The difference was incredible in terms of my symptoms. It was night and day. The effects were truly remarkable and unmistakable. I’m very careful now with my TTFD powder and make sure it stays in an opaque container.

Lesson 4: Treating My Carnitine Deficiency. Once Again Formulation Matters.

Another thing that I had not been able to fix was my carnitine deficiency. This was discovered by the neurologist who suspected that I was dealing with a FAOD (fatty acid oxidation disorder) or a mitochondrial disease back in February. Free carnitine levels in blood are supposed to be between 17 and 49, while mine was 6. I tried taking various forms of carnitine (L-carnitine, acetyl-L-carnitine, l-carnitine tartrate, Optimized Carnitine, propionyl-L-carnitine) but they all had a laxative effect which was aggravating my symptoms. I asked my neurologist if there were injections with carnitine that could replace the pills, but was left to figure it out for myself. And I did.

Through much research, I found a form that worked for me. It is called Propionyl-L-Carnitine. This form of carnitine is a known agent that protects against ischemia – quote from the linked study:

Free CoA and propionyl-CoA cannot enter or leave mitochondria, but propionyl groups are transferred between separate CoA pools by prior conversion to propionyl-L-carnitine. This reaction requires carnitine and carnitine acetyl transferase, an enzyme abundant in heart tissue. Propionyl-L-carnitine traverses both mitochondrial and cell membranes. Within the cell, this mobility helps to maintain the mitochondrial acyl-CoA/CoA ratio. When this ratio is increased, as in carnitine deficiency states, deleterious consequences ensue, which include deficient metabolism of fatty acids and urea synthesis.

This form of carnitine has made a huge difference in my health, especially with one particular symptom – the wet cough that had accompanied my walking around the house since April 2021.

More Energy and Exercise Tolerance with the Correct Supplements

In October, I began taking magnesium taurate and I also added higher doses of potassium to my regimen, just to see if I tolerated them. I had taken rather lower doses of potassium on and off since starting high dose TTFD. One of the things higher potassium solved, was the aftertaste (or after smell) that I used to get with 300 mg TTFD. I know most people dislike it, since it’s a sulphur smell, although I never disliked it.

After about two weeks on magnesium taurate and higher potassium intake with every dose of TTFD, I began propionyl-L-Carnitine HCL and Optimized Carnitine again. I noticed that they no longer had a laxative effect and I doubled my dose of propionyl-L-carnitine HCL so that I was taking about 600 mg three times a day, combined with one capsule of Optimized Carnitine.

After about a week, I noticed that I had more energy. I no longer needed to eat every three or four hours, I no longer had dyspnea or wet cough during the day when I was walking around the house. All those symptoms speak of cardiomyopathy and were resolving with the supplements. I still need to avoid sleeping on my left side and instead sleep on an incline on my back to be able to sleep through the night, but it my sleep is so much better now. My headache, something that has tortured me since I attempted intermittent fasting in 2018, is now gone. This makes me think that the right-sided headache is one of the symptoms of my heart not being able to do its job properly.

One of the things that helps the most with mitochondrial biogenesis is exercise and it is highly recommended for people with mitochondrial disease. However, in many studies it is noted that if cardiomyopathy is present, then this therapeutic cannot really be used. This is important because many people recovered and improved their exercise intolerance, but still develop symptoms after too much physical effort and wonder what they could further do to improve their symptoms.

After finding the right supplements to correct my deficiencies, I’m able to walk around the house without it aggravating or triggering my symptoms. Prior to this, I was largely bedridden and would have flares every time I attempted to do anything. I have a device that measures how many steps I take and it shows that I walk at least 1000 steps per day when I do nothing and spend 95% of the day in bed.
Now I’m able to go out and walk around my apartment building, which is about 150 meters and do not suffer any consequence. I tried walking more than that and if I do, my main symptoms come back (insomnia, heart symptoms and headache). It is progress, but I still have a long way to go.

I am also capable of learning a little bit of German every day. While my memory is still very poor, at least what I learn “stays” in my brain and the knowledge/understanding of the language accumulates slowly day by day. Intellectual activity no longer triggers the terrible, hours-long headache it once did.

Improved Sleep: Correcting the “Histamine Bucket”, Insomnia, and Heart Symptoms

Since becoming ill, I have had insomnia, likely due to my heart struggling to maintain a constant rate and rhythm. One of the very first things I heard that could explain my constant awakenings especially around 2-3am in the morning is the theory of the “histamine bucket”. This theory argues that around 2-3 am, there is some shift in our body’s physiology and histamine is released. Thus, if you already have a lot of histamines in your body, due to mast cell activation or low DAO, your histamine bucket is full and it will make you wake up. While this is plausible, I do not believe it is sufficient to cause these early morning awakenings. It is not a cause in and of itself, but one of the many things that get dysregulated downstream after nutritional deficiencies are ignored for a period of time.

My chronic early morning insomnia began in 2015, when my thiamine levels dropped and the aggravated mitochondrial disease began to unfold. I remember waking up and I would feel my heart beating more strongly (though not pounding), sometimes I would hear a pulsatile “whoosh” sound in my ear. I would also feel weird sensations in my chest, though not pressure. During those months, I would experience on and off dyspnea while walking to my office. I didn’t think anything of it because I approach my health in the exact opposite manner people with real hypochondria do. I just thought it was a subjective “feeling”, thus not worthy of an inquiry into a possible objective cause for it.

The experience I had in the last few weeks with the supplements mentioned above makes me doubt that mast cell activation or histamine “bucket” overflow are the main causes of waking up constantly at 2 or 3 a.m. I believe it’s most likely connected with the impact histamines have on the heart – they are a known factor in developing heart failure and using antihistamines does help in preventing/postponing the onset of heart failure. This also explains why of all medications, antihistamines were the only ones that helped with a lot of my symptoms in 2016/2017.

When I started taking magnesium taurate, potassium in high enough doses and propionyl-L-carnitine, my heart symptoms improved and my sleep improved. Recently, I woke up at 3 a.m. and I immediately took a low dose of magnesium taurate and a little bit of potassium citrate. I fell asleep again in 15 minutes and in the morning I felt ok. In the past, when I would take something like L-theanine. It would force my body to go back to sleep immediately after 2 a.m., but I would feel much worse in the morning, more than if I just had insomnia.

Restoring Normal Heart Rate

One of the most important things has been reducing my resting pulse from 75-80 BPM to my normal, prior to 2016 resting pulse which used to be 60-65 BPM. I remember I used to complain about it and doctors or nurses just brushed me off. They would say that if it is under 90 BPM, then it is not a medical symptom of anything. I knew they were wrong, but how could I argue? Somehow these people in white coats think that heart failure or other cardiac diseases start out of the blue, when in fact these diseases represent years and years of ignored symptoms before the onset of the full-blown disease with typical manifestations is recognized.

Lessons Learned

Everything that helps my heart function better and recover faster improves all of my symptoms, no matter how much they may seem unrelated. This is what I observed about my own body and I encourage everyone to listen to their body and understand that all symptoms are related.

If one version of one supplement does not work, try another form and combine it with different forms and dosages of other supplements. By supplement, I understand all substances that are naturally found in food or produced by the body.

When I saw that simple forms of L-carnitine don’t have an observable effect, I simply started searching for better forms of carnitine and found propionyl-L-carnitine, which is the physiologically active form of carnitine. Why I looked for other forms of carnitine? Because I learned from experience that high dose vitamin B1, as thiamine HCL didn’t help, but that high dose Allithiamine (a formulation with TTFD) helped and still helps my body working again as it should.

I found taurine (again) by searching for supplements that improve heart failure symptoms. When I first heard about it while reading one of Dr. Lonsdale’s comments, I didn’t understand why it was important.

No one should ever quit trying to figure out their own matrix of symptoms. Begin with the vitamins and minerals, while at the same time addressing infections, limiting damaging diets, limiting exposure to toxic substances and so on. I firmly believe that all diseases with chronic fatigue involve some degree of mitochondrial dysfunction – inherited or acquired. The prototype documented, unquestionable illness that causes hundreds of symptoms, i.e. a multi-systemic illness, is inherited mitochondrial disease.

I know personally of two other people who were completely bedridden, suffering from constant light intolerance, having to live in my bed for two years with a sleeping mask all day and all night, unresponsive to any treatment or approach promoted by the online integrative medicine doctors and communities. I did not think I would ever be able to become house bound, not able to tolerate light, to think or cook for myself. The ability to no longer be bedridden and forced to live in total isolation in darkness and to be house bound is nothing short of a miracle. I owe that to thiamine.

Usually people who end up in that state for so long never recover because all known alternative treatments are exhausted and high dose thiamine for chronic illness is virtually unheard of. I will make sure to do everything in my power to change this, no matter the costs, because there’s just too much unnecessary suffering out there.

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Endometriosis and Heavy Menstrual Bleeding: Two Sides of the Same Molecular Coin

by Chandler Marrs, PhD

Published on October 30, 2025

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For as long as I have been studying endometriosis, I have suspected that endometriosis represented a protective cascade, one that has either gone awry or was incapable of fully eliminating or adapting to an internal stressor. To me, endometriosis behaves like cancer, not the cancer of aberrant oncogenes and tumor suppressors, though they are factors, but the cancer of metabolism, of Otto Warburg and others. I think aberrant metabolism is the key to understanding endometriosis and a myriad of other disease processes, including heavy menstrual bleeding. Until recently, however, I have not had much evidence to support this hypothesis. There is a troubling paucity of research on topics related to women’s health. Of the research that exists, much of it is focused on tried and mostly untrue conventional interpretations disease. Interpretations, I would argue, that do more to serve economic or political purposes than health, but I digress.

Over the last few years, however, mitochondrial metabolism has emerged as key determinant of health or disease. Central to this work is the role of cellular hypoxia. In order for cells to function, in order for our brains to think, our hearts to pump, muscles to contract, the mitochondria, organelles within the cells, must breathe. That is, they must consume oxygen and respire. Mitochondrial oxygen consumption results in the critically important production of ATP – cellular energy. Without oxygen, no ATP. Without ATP, nothing works. Cells die. Tissues die. Organs fail. Whether and how quickly injury or death ensues is determined by a number of factors, including the totality of the oxygen deprivation, but also, the metabolic flexibility to withstand insufficient oxygenation, even at low levels. Mitochondrial metabolism can be derailed quite easily by diet, pharmaceutical and environmental chemicals, and even a sedentary lifestyle. Metabolic alterations may transpire across generations when exposures are coincident with critical periods of fetal development and even result in de novo or first generation mutations in either nDNA or mtDNA. Mitochondrial metabolism is a key determinant of health and may in fact determine whether and how oxygenation is maintained at the cellular level.

Hypoxia and the HIF Survival Cascades

Adequate oxygenation in the cell involves a system of molecular adaptations that kick into gear during periods of hypoxia and remit when oxygenation returns. These survival cascades are initiated by oxygen sensors that trigger a set of proteins called hypoxia inducible factors (HIF1α and its counterparts HIF1β, HIF2α, HIF3α). HIFs are the master regulators of oxygen homeostasis, ensuring cell survival during periods of low oxygen. So far, researchers have identified at least 100 other proteins controlled by HIFs and tasked with bringing more oxygen and fuel into the cells. HIFs activate angiogenesis (formation of new blood vessels), erythropoiesis (production of new blood cells) and iron metabolism (oxygen carriers), glucose metabolism (substrate for ATP), growth factors, and other proteins. When all else fails, the HIF system signals apoptosis, cell death. In the short term, the hypoxia cascades are brilliant in their ability to forestall anoxia and death. In the long term, however, they wreak havoc.

If you have followed the endometriosis research, most, if not all of the proteins involved in maintaining and spreading endometriotic lesions, are controlled by HIF proteins. I suspect they were activated by disturbed mitochondrial metabolism, either causatively or consequently. Owing to the laws of reciprocity, once hypoxia sets in, it will disturb mitochondrial metabolism further, initiating a downward spiral that becomes difficult to unwind without full consideration of mitochondrial function. Of interest, these same cascades are active in preeclampsia and other diseases of modernity. In fact, I think many of the diseases we see in western cultures, are a result of long-term, low-level, cellular hypoxia mediated by mitochondrial dysfunction.

What precipitates the hypoxia and the mitochondrial dysfunction is not clear, but here again, I have some ideas. With endometriosis I suspect there are multiple factors that coalesce to generate cell level hypoxia. Fetal and germ cell damage of our grandmothers and mothers mitigated by environmental (here, here, here) and/or pharmaceutical toxicants combined with our own exposures are key among them. For the heavy menstrual bleeding, however, I think the origins are almost entirely environmental, and by environmental, I mean the totality of the modern environment that includes diet, pharmaceuticals, and the ever-present industrial and environmental chemicals that pervade our existence.

With endometriosis, the hypoxia cascades are hyperactive. That is, HIF proteins are more prominent and seem not to be degraded effectively, suggesting a chronic or unremitting hypoxic threat. The ever-present HIF proteins then activate the compensatory cascades discussed above, promoting endometriotic lesion growth and the invasion into healthy cells. In contrast, with heavy menstrual bleeding researchers have found lower levels of HIF proteins. On the surface, this might suggest hypoxia is not involved, but I suspect it is. I just don’t know how exactly. There are hints to suggest I am correct. The question is why are the HIF proteins lower in women who bleed more heavily and higher in women with endometriosis? Is the bleeding another mechanism to deal with an unresolved localized hypoxia; one mediated perhaps by a different hormonal milieu?

Hypoxic Spirals and Mitochondrial Metabolism

In either case, aberrant HIF tells us that mitochondrial metabolism is altered. What it does not tell us is why or how. In many regards, however, the why and how may not matter. There are so many factors capable of affecting mitochondrial metabolism that determining THE factor is all but meaningless and perhaps a fool’s errand inasmuch as mitochondrial phenotypes, even with the same genotypes, are rarely consistent. More often than not, mitochondrial symptoms express with tremendous variability even among family members. This owes largely to the fact that mitochondria, as the cell danger sensors, are malleable by just about everything from nutritional status to genetics to environmental exposures and anything in between. In fact, something as simple as a nutrient deficiency, even a low-level one, can induce mitochondrial hypoxia. Carried out across time, the disease processes evoked appear identical to their genetic counterparts, and can induce de novo mutations generationally, effectively blurring the once hard and fast distinctions between genetic and environmental disease processes.

High calorie malnutrition, diets high in sugars and processed foods loaded in environmental chemicals but deficient in actual nutrients induce hypoxia. Many of agricultural, industrial and medical chemicals have been linked directly to endometriosis. Generationally, the effects are compounded. Consider DDT, Dioxins, PBCs, and DES. All are genotoxic, damage mitochondria and have been linked to endometriosis. Linkages to heavy menstrual bleeding are less well known, due to a complete lack of research. However, if we consider fibroids are one the most common causes of heavy menstrual bleeding, rodent research shows clear connections between long term, low level, food exposures to glyphosate, Bt toxin, and adjuvants, the chemical cocktail found in Roundup and used on genetically modified crops, to fibroid tumor growth. I suspect the accumulation of these and other toxins are keys to understanding the cell level hypoxia associated with heavy menstrual bleeding. The fibroid, like the endometriotic implant, may represent a mechanism to sequester toxicants, or in the case of heritable damage, remediate a flaw in bioenergetics with the resulting hypoxia a side-effect that then initiates its own survival cascades – the hypoxic spiral.

Hypoxic spirals are quite easy to initiate but somewhat difficult to stop, especially when resource availability is limited because of genetic or environmental liabilities. Consider the self-perpetuating cascades in iron deficiency or anemia, common in women. Anemia induces cell level hypoxia, which induces heavy bleeding. The heavy bleeding then induces or maintains the anemia. Similarly, Lupron, a medication used for both endometriosis and fibroids causes cell level hypoxia directly by damaging the mitochondria and reducing their metabolic flexibility. Hormonal contraceptives do as well. Indeed, one could argue that since all medications and vaccines damage the mitochondria by some mechanism or another, the ability to consume oxygen is necessarily impaired by modern therapeutics for all who use these chemicals. Reproductive ailments may simply be one set of manifestations among many. This begs the question, however, if cellular hypoxia can be induced so easily, in virtually anyone, why is it that some women develop endometriosis and/or heavy menstrual bleeding and others do not. In other words, why aren’t all women plagued with these disease processes? Increasingly, they are.

Damage to female reproductive function, colloquially referred to as ‘period problems’, has become almost commonplace in modern cultures affecting some 80% of the female population. Whether the issues present as endometriosis, adenomyosis, PCOS, fibroids, heavy bleeding or other menstrual or reproductive disease processes, may not matter. The nexus of each may be indicative of cell level hypoxia with the different phenotypes contingent on the individual’s cocktail of genetic, epigenetic, and environmental exposures and resources.

Treatment Possibilities

If hypoxia lay at the root of these disease processes, to the extent that the hypoxia can be resolved affords new treatment opportunities; ones that not only tackle root causes, rather than symptoms, but may also affect the totality of the individual’s health. Hypoxia, barring obstruction, is a metabolic disturbance. Whether the origins are genetic, epigenetic or environmental, metabolism resides in the mitochondria. If we support the mitochondria, provide the mitochondria with the resources, the fuel to perform the tasks they are proscribed to perform, rather than continually damaging or blocking innate signaling pathways needed for cell survival, we may just be able to, if not eliminate these disease processes, at least manage them and improve quality of life. I think this is worth looking into, don’t you?

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This article was originally published on May 9, 2017.

Early Abuse, Poor Nutrition, Endometriosis, and Thiamine Deficiency

by Eva

Published on February 12, 2025

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I feel like I was born sick. I feel like despite working passionately and obsessively hard at reaching for good health, every single minute of every single day of my life has required Herculean effort. I am the product of an abusive childhood. There have been studies done that an abused child invariably grows into a sick adult. I believe this to be true. I think my adrenals were burnt out by the time I was 2 years old.

My earliest memory is at 14 months old. I was wearing a new Easter dress and my mother wanted to take my picture. I remember looking beside me and seeing a flower and wanting to smell it. As I bent down to smell the flower, which is not what my mother wanted me to do, rather than taking a picture of her lovely soft toddler smelling a flower, she whacked the back of my head and smashed my face into the concrete.

The attacks were always this way; brutal and unpredictable. My face was held in a bowl of hot stew because I wasn’t chewing the way she wanted me to when I was 3 years old. I am tightly tongue-tied and tongue-tied children struggle with being able to manipulate the chewing-swallowing process. We were made to sleep naked and shivering in the bathtub when we had stomach flu so that she wouldn’t have to clean our sheets. I don’t remember a single day of my childhood that was not filled with the crazy butterfly feeling in my stomach of being in continuous flight/fight or freeze, although “fight” was never an option. I imagine I used up all my B vitamins in infancy and they were not replaced. I do assume that the abuse was experienced in very early infancy.

Low Nutrient Diet

Conditions I have had since early infancy include intractable insomnia, constipation, severe motion sickness and histamine intolerance. I don’t imagine that this mother, whose coping mechanisms allowed her to smash a baby’s head into concrete, would have allowed for a kind and gentle response to an infant who could not nurse properly (due to the tongue tie), or could not sleep, had tummy pain from constipation, and vomited every time she put me in the car.

I do have a brain that has a higher than usual requirement for nutrients. I was a self-taught reader. I was reading at a second grade level by the time I was 3 years old, and thankfully, was put into the school system early. This turned out to be the only hours in my day where I wasn’t anticipating abuse.

Although we were comfortably middle class, we were raised on a very low nutrient diet of my mother’s comfort foods. We had cereal for breakfast. Lunch and supper were almost invariably white rice cooked in milk and generously topped with sugar and cinnamon, or noodles with butter and sugar, or pancakes with jam or sugar, or bread with butter and sugar followed by cake or pie.

Headaches, Nausea, Infections and Joint Dislocations

As a child, I had daily headaches, frequent nausea, very low energy, frequent infections, muscle pain all over my body, and joints that subluxed/dislocated. I almost always have at least one joint dislocated, most commonly thumbs, wrists, ankles, ribs, cervical spine, TMJ. Additionally, I was diagnosed with scoliosis, asthma, and anemia. At 12, the family physician told me I would be in pain for the rest of my life because of the multiple fractures I’d sustained to the coccyx, torn ligaments in the SI joint, and a rotated pelvis. What a thing to tell a young child! His only solution was that I should take Tylenol every 3 hours for the rest of my life, which was no solution at all. I have continuous low back pain, an SI joint that dislocates daily, and hips that have torn labrums and dislocate or sublux. I was a competitive figure skater and took many falls. I competed with broken toes, a broken tailbone, and took many blows to my head.

I am in constant pain and cannot remember a time when I was not. Currently I can stand for only periods of 30 seconds or less before having to lie flat on the ground to relieve the pain. I had an insatiable appetite. I could eat easily 3 to 4 times the size of servings that my father would eat, and I’ve never had a “full button”. I have always been extremely underweight, despite eating huge amounts.

Endometriosis, Veganism, and Osteopenia

My menstrual cycle started horribly when I was only 10 years old, and I went through seven laparotomies in my lifetime with diathermy. They were all excruciating and left me emaciated, butchered, and in intractable agony. The surgeries were done by General OBGYNs who had absolutely no business doing stage 4 endometriosis surgeries. I also do not respond normally to medications. For example, morphine increases my pain response, and I essentially went through the first two major surgeries with no pain relief.

As a teenager, in order to try to cure myself, I started experimenting with diet. I regrettably turned to vegetarianism / veganism and continued with veganism for 24 years. As I got weaker and weaker and more and more sick, I figured I only had to be stricter with my diet and eventually ended up eating only raw fruit and vegetables. Despite all this, I headed off to University at the age of 16, and completed a double degree with a 4.0 GPA on a 4-point scale in 4 years.

Now came an endless circus of doctors and specialists who would laugh at me or throw away the list I brought in of my symptoms. They told me that if I could not even remember my symptoms and had to write them down obviously I was making them up.

I was diagnosed with osteopenia at age 24. I was given the bone density test as a precaution before being prescribed Lupron. Thankfully, the osteopenia diagnosis helped me narrowly avoid the disaster of Lupron. I have been given diagnoses such as IBS, fibromyalgia, depression, generalized anxiety disorder, lupus and arthritis (based on anti-DNA positive test), and celiac disease.

Idiopathic Fractures, Word Loss, and Prosopagnosia

After 24 years of being a vegan, I spent three weeks in critical care with toxic shock. On my first day home from the hospital, I began experiencing idiopathic bone fractures that would take 4-months or more to begin to fuse. I was losing my words and experiencing prosopagnosia (the inability to recognize faces of people, even those whom I saw every day such as my niece and nephew, and my best friends and their children).

I developed migraines, receding gums, difficulty swallowing, crazy painful gas, sleep apnea, hypnogogia. Hypnogogia is a sort of “waking nightmare”. It is a lapse in the sleep/wake bridge where you become suddenly awake. Your eyes are open, but you are paralyzed and your nightmare is playing out in your room. It is indescribably terrifying. I also developed voice box dysfunction, heart palpitations, and often, I could feel my heart stop/pause. Then I would fall to the ground and I would feel it rapidly start again to catch up the beats. This is in addition to many other symptoms, too many to list.

No More Veganism but Continued Ill-Health and Progressively Worsening Endometriosis

It was at this point I decided that being a vegan was indeed killing me and I switched to a whole foods only diet that included meat, eggs, cheese, nuts, and vegetables. I consumed no sugars in any form, no grains, and zero processed foods. I tried every single miracle supplement that I could lay my hands on, and nothing was making any difference.

I was just trying harder and harder and getting sicker and sicker and was so jealous of all the people that seem to breeze through life, eating crap, where I struggle to hold my arm up long enough to brush my teeth.

My endometriosis was destroying me. I would bleed through the menstrual cups that are meant to last 12 to 18 hours literally every 7 minutes, just lying on the bathroom floor and getting up only to empty the cup. I gathered the blood from the cup during one cycle (too much information, I know) and it filled a peanut butter jar.

I wanted to do this to take it with me when I went to the ER because no one would ever believe me when I tried to describe how much blood I was losing. I had a final endometriosis surgery with complete hysterectomy at age 40. The surgery was done by a specialist whose only job is endometriosis surgeries, and she said mine was the worst case she’d ever seen. The surgery took 7 and 1/2 hours.

A Glimmer of Hope and a Setback

I was lucky enough before this surgery to have been referred to a psychiatrist (because I am crazy and create all these painful and debilitating symptoms to amuse myself) who ended up being a functional medicine enthusiast and Fellow.

His treatments are based almost exclusively on bioidentical human hormones and nutrients (though he has never mentioned thiamine, and is unaware of Dr. Lonsdale’s work). The combination of finally finding a physician who not only listens to me (he spent over 3 hours with me and my first consultation), but also believes me, and getting rid of the constant pain and bleeding were a big blessing for me.

I discovered a magnesium supplement that I could tolerate, and for the first time in my life I was sleeping like a normal person, and having normal bowel movements. My energy was good and I felt well. UNTIL my beloved husband suffered a heart attack. He is well now, but the shock and the fear were the final straw on this camel’s back.

I came down with mononucleosis about 3 weeks after his heart attack. My spleen was grossly swollen and I was bed bound for over 4 months. I felt that any progress I had made had completely disappeared and I was back to being an intractable insomniac with every other symptom just blown out of proportion.

The Ray Peat Diet Mistake

It was at this time while researching “lifelong insomnia”, I came across the suggestion to try niacinamide. It helped so much, and I wanted to look further into the doctor who suggested this. It was the infamous Dr. Ray Peat.

Since I had gone so many years eating only whole foods and no sugars in any form whatsoever and I was still sick, the thought crossed my mind that maybe Dr. Peat was correct. So the second worst decision of my life (after the first worst decision of becoming a vegan) was to try the Ray Peat diet of as much natural sugar as I could get in my body… juices, skim milk, fruit (I would literally eat a whole watermelon in a day)

Stupid, Stupid, Stupid, I know. I was grasping at straws.

A few months into this, I experienced my first panic attack, if you can call it that. I was pulled out of sleep by this searing sick Heat at the center of my stomach that rushed all through my body. I can’t describe it accurately, but it felt like I’d been poisoned and was going to die within minutes.

Little that I did I know that this condition would plague me for the next 3 years. When I spoke to my psychiatrist about it he said, “That’s not a panic attack. A panic attack lasts few minutes and resolves.”

Maybe Carnivore Would Help? Or Not.

My “panic attacks” were happening easily 20 times a day and resolving only to a slightly less severe form of anxiety. It would pull me out of sleep a dozen times each night. I composed a suicide note to my husband, because he was the only reason that I was staying on the planet. The same day I wrote the note, I came across Dr. Berg’s videos. Once again, I became convinced that another dietary regime would finally solve all my problems, and that very day I started a keto diet. I became even skinnier, and the anxiety receded so that I was only having one panic attack early each morning. This was a vast improvement, but I started to have reactions to most of the vegetables I was eating on keto and became aware of quite a severe sensitivity to oxalate, so I switched to carnivore and experienced no symptom improvement after six solid months. This was consuming 2kg of beef a day. I had no sense of satiation and was still way too skinny.

My body decided to reject all other foods and now I sensitive/allergic to sulphur, oxalate, phytates, histamines, am only able to eat five foods without an extreme response of fever, chills, total insomnia constipation etc. My face flushes severe when I eat any food at all and I feel flushed, and feverish with body chills and freezing cold feet.

I react strongly and poorly to even the tiniest amount of any supplement, which I realize now is just very likely because of paradox and my body is in desperate need of nutrients.

I suspected MCAS and EDS, and my functional psychiatrist/physician concurs with my analysis. I was initially elated to finally have even an informal diagnosis, and almost instantly deflated when I learned there is no treatment.

Was It Thiamine Deficiency All Along?

So it was then that I stumbled upon the video that Elliot Overton made with a woman who has EDS and has resolved her symptoms through carnivore and a thiamine protocol.

And then I found this website 🙂

I suspected I would have a strong Paradox.

I started with only a third of a capsule of a B complex.

This small dose put me into a suicidal depression unlike anything I’ve ever experienced before. I am thankful that for some serendipitous reason my husband was attached to the hip with me that week or I would have, without a second thought, walked to the train tracks and laid across them.

On the 6th day the suicidal urge lifted and I stayed with a third of a capsule of B complex and added 50 mg TTFD.

My sleep apnea stopped, but I am now in my 7th Day of vertigo.

I have experienced positional vertigo before where if I move from lying down to sitting or standing up the world spins for a few moments. This vertigo is completely different and it is washing over me almost continuously irrespective of being completely still.

I am thankful that I understand the paradox now and I am going to power through this with complete dedication in desperate hope that I have finally found an answer to a lifetime of pain, struggle, and bone crushing fatigue.

I am astounded and so grateful to Drs. Marrs and Lonsdale for all the time, knowledge, dedication, energy and yes, love, that they have poured into this site.

I imagine that I am not the only one for whom this work might be the final stop between life and death. Because of Drs. Marrs and Lonsdale and this website, I am experiencing HOPE, and that is no small thing.

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Hormonal Birth Control Solves Everything Right? Wrong.

by Jess Poland

Published on July 9, 2024

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Hi, my name is Jess, I have two children, whom I gave birth to at age 17 and 19. This saved me in ways I could write a book about. I also had one miscarriage. Members of my family have a history of gynecological problems and some of them struggle with fertility. I also was at high risk for hormonal problems due to my strong family history. What I did not know, was just how limited doctors’ understanding of menstrual and hormone problems was. For every problem I presented with, hormonal birth control and painkillers were the answer. When those didn’t work, surgery. I had 10 operations in the span of a few years, until finally and out of desperation, I had a total hysterectomy in my twenties. I cannot help but wonder if the Depo Provera prescribed to me after the birth of my second child was somehow the root of my illnesses and all of the other prescriptions for hormonal birth control added and worsened my pain. It seems like I was in vicious cycle. Here is my story.

Hormonal Birth Control, Pain, and the Long List of ER Visits and Unsuccessful Surgeries

Depo Provera: The Beginning of My Pain

At my 6-week post birth check-up for my 2^nd child, the doctor I recommended that I go on the Depo Provera shot to prevent any further pregnancies. So, I did. In September 2013, after two more shots of the Depo Provera, I started having “a period” that lasted 7 months! After multiple doctors’ visits, lots of medications and tests, I was referred to my first specialist, a gynecologist.

Operation 1. In April 2014, at 20 years old, I had my first gynecological surgery: a hysteroscopy, along with a D&C and a Mirena inserted to stop the “period” I was having. The Mirena was also for birth control.

The Mirena Chronicles: More Pain and Ruptured Cyst

For the next 8 months, I had extremely irregular periods, unusual pain, and contemplated having the Mirena removed. The specialist recommended that I keep it in and see if it settles. Intercourse was painful, and after, I was guaranteed to wake up bleeding the next day. My pain became unbearable and after I had an ultrasound, they found I had a cyst on my left ovary. I was given prescription pain relief and was told they would do another ultrasound in 4-6 weeks. That didn’t happen because the pain was slowly getting worse. After two more visits to the emergency department with more pain medication, I was still told that we needed to take a wait and see approach. My health was declining. I lost 7 kilograms in 3 weeks from feeling so unwell.

Then one day I collapsed with severe sudden pain. I went to the hospital straight away when another ultrasound revealed the cyst on my ovary had ruptured. I was told I needed to undergo surgery.

Operation 2. I had a laparoscopy, so they could clean out the mess from the ruptured cyst.

Irregular Bleeding, Another Cyst, Endometriosis, and Still, Mirena is the Solution

A couple months went by and my pain once again returned. I still was having irregular bleeding and was still guaranteed to be bleeding after having intercourse. It was like déjà vu. Unfortunately, I was back on pain killers and an ultrasound revealed another ovarian cyst. The pain was often unbearable. Off to the emergency department again. Multiple pain medications didn’t seem to be working and I was told I need to deal with it as there was nothing they could really do. I thought “Are you serious?!?! Why the hell won’t you help me?!?!” I was a mess.

At every hospital visit, I got the “Oh you are on a lot of bad medication; you shouldn’t take so much.” So I would ask “can you please do something? I don’t want to keep shoveling pills down my throat!!”. However, every time the answer seemed to be “here are some more medications for your pain because we can see you’re in a lot of pain and your vital signs are showing you are in a lot of pain”. This wasn’t providing any sort of solution to fix my pain and being told to suck it up and get over it, by one doctor, didn’t help either. I couldn’t help but feel depressed and severely anxious every time I needed to go to the emergency department. I was in so much pain I didn’t know what to do. When did I become a person who needed multiply prescription medicines to control the pain enough that I could function semi-normally? At one point, I weighed only 48 kilograms. I had lost 10 kilograms. I could barely eat. Every day I tried to stay positive, but it was so hard being consumed in pain 24 hours, 7 days a week.

Operation 3. I had another laparoscopy on the 1^st of May 2015, where I had the cyst removed from my left ovary. This is when they told me I had some endometriosis. They inserted another Mirena as a treatment option. It seems as though, birth control and pain killers are the only answers that they have.

Rinse and Repeat and Repeat and Repeat: More Hormonal Birth Control and More Surgeries

By September 2015 the same thing happened again, another large cyst, given away by the extreme pain and accompanied by the irregular bleeding! Another round of multiple hospital visits and admissions, I was again put on really strong pain killers and we discussed treatment options. I was prepped for a procedure called an aspiration and drainage, but my bowel and bladder were collapsed over, and they couldn’t perform it.

Operation 4. On the 24^th September 2015, I had another laparoscopy. Another large cyst and more endometriosis were removed. After surgery, I was placed on a different birth control pill, along with the Mirena IUD, as a treatment option for the reoccurring cysts and endometriosis.

By January 2016 my pain had once again come back, and I was admitted to hospital. The result showed that I had another cyst on my left ovary. (Seriously, WTF!!! So many more tears). They told me they didn’t want to do any more operations on me, and I sure as hell didn’t want anymore. I was now 22 and felt like I was failing as a mum and person because I was always so consumed in pain. There were days where I couldn’t even leave the house. I had the Mirena removed again and was once again on pain killers. I was put on a hormonal birth control pill; a much higher dose, and we all prayed this would give me relief.

I had started to build up a resistance to any sort of pain relief. It felt like I was constantly going to the emergency department and was always sent home with more pain killers. Most of the time, the same ones I already took daily. I was going because my pain was so out of control, everyone around me was telling me to go get help, including my GP because I could barely function. Why were they sending me home on the same pain killers that didn’t control my pain? This affected my emotional state further. Some nurses, doctors and people were really kind to me, and others were extremely nasty and made me feel guilty for being in so much pain. I really didn’t want to be sent home again with no solution. “We must figure something out, please stop doing this to me!!! It has happened too many times!”

By March 2016, I was still in chronic pain and on even more daily medications. I had another ultrasound which reveal that I still had another large cyst in my left ovary. It also showed that I had nephrocalcinoisis (calcium build-up) and a small cyst in one of my kidneys, I was told this could be from long term use of pain medication but not exclusively. My jaw dropped. I had to travel to see a kidney specialist who told me it was nothing much to worry about and if it gets worse then I will be referred back. The advice from him was to ease up on the pain medication if possible and find other ways to deal with my chronic pain.

Operation 5. By May 2016, we were once again going to re-insert a Mirena to try and help my issue, however, it didn’t want to go in, so I had my 5^th Operation to have it inserted on the 2^nd June 2016. (Even if it was only slightly effective for a couple months that gave us time to try figure out what we were going to do). I was using a lot pain medication still, and my bleeding was happening more than it wasn’t. Once again, I was anemic and needed to take supplements to help my iron. Luckily, I never needed a blood transfusion. I had honestly lost count of the amount of times I went to my doctor’s clinic and the emergency department. I couldn’t even tell you the names of all the different types of pain relief and contraception options I had tried. I was labelled as someone who just ‘wanted painkillers’ because the amount I was on would not fix my pain. I was anxious and depressed due to my declining health. I wanted to just stop taking everything, but the pain was so much I couldn’t even move. Still around 50 kilograms and I had now been on pain relief constantly for around 6 months.

Operation 6. At this stage I was feeling worse if anything, so I had my 6^th operation to remove the Mirena once again, after failed attempts to remove it in the gynecologist unit.

Going in Circles: More Birth Control, More Pain and Problems and More Surgery

By September 2016, I had visited the hospital and doctors so many times I was known on a first name basis. By this time, I had begun to research treatment options extensively and spoke to multiple people, including my gynecologists and doctor which led to me to discussing a hysterectomy. By now, I was willing to try any option to rid me of this pain! After extensive discussion it was decided that I would just have my left ovary removed because that was the most troublesome. In September 2016, we scheduled a laparoscopic Left Salpingo- Oophorectomy (Left Ovary and Fallopian Tube Removal).

Operation 7. On the 12^th of October (day after my 23^rd birthday), I had my 7^th Operation. During this operation they found another problem. This is when I was diagnosed with pelvic congestion syndrome/ Ovarian Vein reflux and was referred to another specialist- an Interventional Radiologist.

Pelvic Congestion Syndrome/Ovarian pain reflux
“Pelvic venous congestion syndrome is also known as ovarian vein reflux. It is a cause of chronic pelvic pain in approximately 13-40% of women. Chronic pelvic pain is pain in the lower abdomen which has been present for more than 6 months. Pelvic congestion syndrome is therefore a painful condition often caused by dilatation of the ovarian and/or pelvic veins (rather like varicose veins but in the pelvis) . Varicose veins are commonly seen in the legs when the veins become less elastic and the valves that stop the blood from flowing backwards stop working. This causes the blood to pool, due to gravity, causing enlarged, bulging and knotty veins. This is also what happens to the pelvic veins in pelvic venous congestion syndrome (PVCS). This pressure results in the pain of PVCS and may also cause visible varicose veins around the vulva, vagina, inner thigh, and sometimes, the buttock and down the leg (s).”

Things went well for a short while, but the pain just got worse again. Again, I was on a lot of pain killers. I was always forced to take Panadol first if I was admitted in the ED, before they prescribed anything else.

I was referred to another specialist – an Interventional radiologist.

I drove 5 hours to see an interventional radiologist as there were none locally who could take me in the public system. I was advised by him that I should have platinum coils inserted in my ovarian veins and a foam solution to kill off a bunch of other veins. They thought the PVCS could be the cause to my pain and this treatment could prevent me from getting anymore varicose veins. He told me I am lucky that my legs and vagina hadn’t been affected yet, and that I will need to keep an eye out for this in the future.

Operation 8. I had operation number 8 in March 2017. I wasn’t under general anesthetic this time. Just a “twilight sedation” where they used my main artery in my neck to insert the coils and other treatments. Thankfully, I was out of it for most of it!! I had multiple coils inserted and who knows how many other smaller veins were treated. They wanted me to stay admitted overnight but I couldn’t do it. I was actually a bit traumatized from the whole experience. I felt extremely alone and scared down in a “big city” hospital by myself. At one stage, they were so busy that the head of my bed was in a utility closet to get me out of the way. Unfortunately, this operation did not help my pain as much as I prayed it would. pelvic congestion hormonal birth control

Chemical Menopause, Hysterectomy, and More Medications

I was at my wits end. I was breaking down emotionally, so I reconsidered a hysterectomy even though I was only 23 years old. The gynecologist I was seeing suggested that I go into chemical menopause before I had a hysterectomy so that I could see if it would benefit my pain. So, I did, I went on an injection called Zoladex. It causes chemical menopause and it’s actually used as a treatment for breast and prostate cancer. I was told not to research it but I couldn’t help myself.

I went to a regular GP appointment, but this time came out with more bad news. The results were that I have high cholesterol, which showed in a recent blood test. The doctor was a little confused because I didn’t have any of the major risk factors for high cholesterol. Turns out, that is what chemical (surgical or natural) menopause can do to one’s body. Now I had to add another specialist to the list of doctors and it meant another trip away. He told me if you have a hysterectomy and you take out your only remaining ovary, your cholesterol treatment will greatly differ”. He told me, “what would/could happen and that I must go back after my operation, but for now it was still untreated. So, with that news I felt like I needed to keep my only remaining ovary.

I was now seeing multiple professionals and had been seeing a gynecologist who made me regain hope. We talked about this operation multiple times over a long period of time and I was still suffering “chemical menopause” symptoms at that time, with my pain coming back worse the chemical menopause pellet started to run out. I was excited when the day finally came where I signed the papers to have a total hysterectomy. The advice I received was that I should make serious lifestyle changes to help my body. I was advised to do weight bearing exercises, quit smoking, go on Hormone Replacement Therapy and pray it doesn’t bring my pain back.

One thing that is still stuck in my mind is the line “this could take up to 10 years of your life”. I was in so much pain and I was sick of taking so much medicine that was making me sick in other ways. I really wanted to stop having operation after operation.

Operation 9. On the 2nd of August 2017, I had a total hysterectomy. I had everything except my right ovary removed. I must admit I felt strange, my belly felt empty, but I immediately felt like I had less pain.

It was the best thing I did for my pain. I felt like I had recovered from this operation fast and everyone (including myself) was amazed at how well I was doing physically afterwards. Ten days post op, I was able to stop all the pain medication I had been on! This was massive for me!!! No more pain killers! Or so I thought. My right ovary didn’t “wake up” after my hysterectomy and I began experiencing stronger menopause symptoms. I knew the obvious symptoms after having chemical menopause. This led me to the journey of figuring out and starting my first lot of Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). I also came to the realization that it takes up to one year to fully heal from a total hysterectomy.

I must admit this affected me mentally and emotionally more than I thought it would. Some days are so bad, they scare me, other days I’m on top of the world. I think this definitely contributed to my mental health. One of the hardest things about having mental illness is getting up and putting on ‘you’re okay face’ every day. This isn’t makeup. This is the face where you put on a smile and say, “I’m fine”, or “I’m good thanks”. Its where you hope no one sees past your bulls**t smile because the moment they do you know you’ll break down and cry, but at the same time you just want someone to help you and help you not feel the way you feel anymore. Who knew hormones can mess with your head so much? Who knew hormones play apart in so many different things in your body?

Operation 10. On the 28^th of June 2018, surgery number 10 happened. I had my right ovary removed. I had another cyst that was complex in nature and which was making my pain worst, contributing to me being back on pain killers again full-time. They also saw that the coil that was cut during my hysterectomy was exposed at the tip, so they trimmed this up as well. hysterectomy at 23

Surgical Menopause: Medicine’s Only Other Solution

After this operation, I “officially” entered surgical menopause. I have learnt what surgical menopause really is, and how much it differs from natural menopause. I also learned how under-educated people are regarding this condition, including some doctors and specialist. I didn’t know this was the journey I was going to be on for the rest of my life, however, I have learned that I am my only and best advocate. I still suffer from chronic pain every day, and now I have an added stress of menopause. All I can do is stay strong and true to what I know and keep fighting for myself and women like me. I will continue to try and get better health care for myself and I will not give up until I am satisfied, I have achieved this. This is not how my story ends.

Thank you for taking the time to read my story. Kind Regards, Jessica Poland (Firth). Queensland, Australia.

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